Lauren Ripley - Rat Lungworm, Restorative Eating, Faith & Path to the Farmacy - Episode #67

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What's up friends, welcome back
to Root of Wisconsin.

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Appreciate you for clicking
another episode.

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Grateful to have you here.
Today's episode is with Lauren

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Ripley, owner of the Pharmacy in
Green Bay Restorative Eatery.

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Awesome food, great mission and
excellent conversation.

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Lauren at the time of recording
was pregnant with her first

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child.
So grateful for her spending an

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hour and a half in the same
chair with me growing a human.

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So appreciate her for doing that
and appreciate her even more for

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the food that she brings to the
Green Bay community.

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Comes from a really
well-intentioned place.

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So much information about
healthy food, how to live

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healthy, and her path to opening
the pharmacy.

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Grew up in Iron Mountain, moved
around the country, some wild

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stories about living in Hawaii
for a while and much much more

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Without further ado, let's get
into it.

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So have the ways we try to lift
our neighbors.

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Where did the love go?
Where did the talk?

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And we need to help to make this
all right pumped up to chat.

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I like I what led me to reaching
out was I I work super close to

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the pharmacy.
My normal job, I work super

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close to the pharmacy and like
every time I go just like it's

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one of them.
It's like a meal you're excited

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to eat.
I try to eat healthy, try to eat

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local and it's just a breath of
fresh air when I come into the

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pharmacy.
So like found you on LinkedIn

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and was just pumped up to chat.
So want to talk about the

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pharmacy a ton today.
But like how did how did it

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start though?
We talked about this a little

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bit, but I can't remember how
many years, like how many years

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has the pharmacy been?
Three years, like this month.

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We've been open for three years.
Yeah.

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What?
What's the path leading up to

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that like?
What's the what's the passion

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behind like food that I'm trying
to think of your tagline.

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It's like restored it.
Food is.

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Restored of eatery.
Yeah.

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So where does that start?
Well, I would say it like long

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time ago, like this has been a
lifelong process to get here.

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I don't remember this and I I
didn't cook growing up, but my

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mom said that I was drawing
menus on the church like

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bulletins.
I was also like designing like

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fashion clothes.
And I had written out when I was

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young that I wanted to have a
cafe where I cooked all the food

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and I served the people because
I like serving people.

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And I had a runway in it for
like models.

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And I was the model, but I also
designed the clothes because I

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was really tall.
So I was like, these are all the

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things that I want to do, So I'm
just going to make it into one

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cafe.
I don't think anything exists

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like that because it's pretty
weird.

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But that was like the original
food or thought that I had when

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I was young.
And then I transitioned into I

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was an athlete and I wanted to
learn about like health.

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And I think like any young girl,
I was also like concerned about

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my weight, even though I was
like ridiculously skinny in high

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school.
And then being an athlete, I

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wasn't able to build muscles.
I was like started to learn

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about nutrition and I ended up,
I was signed up to go to UW

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Stout to play volleyball and to
become a dietitian.

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But then I was like, I don't
really want to become a

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dietitian anymore because I went
in job shadowed 1 and I was

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like, this is not the type of
work that I want to do.

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And I also already kind of knew
that I didn't necessarily

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believe in the food pyramid and
some of the things that we're

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being taught on what we should
be eating.

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And I'm from Upper Michigan, so
not that there's anything

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healthy there, but I grew up on
a very just meat and yeah, not

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at all.
I grew up on a meat and potatoes

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diet and canned vegetables.
We didn't like eat really

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healthy growing up, but it also
wasn't processed food and fast

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food and constantly going out to
eat.

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I was going to say,
comparatively that's pretty

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healthy to a lot of people's
diets.

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Now, yes, and I went through a
period where I was like, we need

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to eat all super foods and my
parents didn't feed me any of

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this, but I'm thankful for the
way that they did feed me

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because that I don't have a lot
of I didn't have bad habits, you

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know, to break.
I wasn't we weren't allowed to

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have soda more than I feel like
once a year my dad would buy

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soda.
Sometimes we'd have juice.

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No, like special cereals, only
Cheerios.

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You know, I was like the most
that we had.

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You would consider my mom maybe
like an almond mom.

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I don't know if you've heard
that term.

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And we were.
Probably an almond daddy.

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I am fully going to be an almond
mom and we were an ingredient

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household, so if you wanted
something, you had to.

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I started learning how to bake
because you couldn't.

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We didn't have Oreos and Chips
Ahoy, so I had to make the

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cookies.
And so the day of my high school

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graduation party, I like, woke
up and I was like, I'm not going

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to college.
That is not what I'm doing.

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The day of your graduation
party, Yeah.

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So I was already like signed up
for UW Stout.

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I was already starting the
volleyball training program and

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ready to go.
And I was, I just was like,

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that's not what I'm doing.
My parents were not college

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people.
They had started their own

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businesses and went off to do
all sorts of entrepreneur things

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and had a ton going on.
So I think I started to feel a

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pull towards that.
And so all summer I was looking

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around and just a few weeks
before school was going to

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start, I found a program in
Colorado for sustainable

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cuisine, and it was in Vail, Co.
And I was thinking, it's better

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than sitting around.
I didn't know what to do, but I

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definitely didn't want to waste
my time.

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And they had like $50 per credit
hour, $50, Is that how you would

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say it?
So like a normal credit is like

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$450.
Is that something like Stout?

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It was $50.00.
I was like, I can come out of

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school with 0 debt.
I'll just go and get this

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program, get an associate's
degree and have a cool

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experience in Colorado.
So I found a roommate through a

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church and my parents dropped me
off and I just went to school in

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Colorado.
And that was never a dream that

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I had.
But my brother was in Steamboat

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Springs, but he was a
snowboarder and that was his.

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He went for like a semester and
dropped out, I think.

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I don't even know if my parents
knew like that.

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His goal was to go snowboard and
I, I was actually going to

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school and within the first
month I started to learn about

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the food system and I didn't
know anything at all.

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So I immediately became a
vegetarian vegan because I was

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like the factory farms and all
this food that, you know, bad

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stuff that's going into our
food.

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And so at that point, I thought
that was the answer is to become

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vegan through culinary schools.
Like if I had to cook a steak, I

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would chew it up and spit it out
so I could at least like get the

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experience of knowing how to do
that.

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But I was like, I'm not going to
participated in this as much as

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I can, but I still wanted the
knowledge that I would get from

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culinary school.
And I went skydiving and

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mountain biking and you know,
rock climbing and hiking

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everyday and all the cool things
that you would do in Colorado.

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I only went skiing.
I went snowboarding once.

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But I was going to school, I was
working full time, internships,

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all the things, trying to just
get the most out of my college

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experience and come out without,
you know, having a ton of debt

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too.
And so after that, I found out a

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program called Woofing, which is
Worldwide Opportunities on

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Organic Farms.
It's a work trade program.

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So you can go anywhere in the
world and you can work on farms,

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hostels, whatever.
And you do a work trade.

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So you put in so many hours and
then they give you housing,

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food.
Everyone's program is different.

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So I moved to Hawaii when I was
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I'd graduated my college program
and I had $400.00 and a

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backpack.
And I went there and I didn't

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have a plan yet.
I was going to couch surf with

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like the actual couch surfing
website.

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And I don't know why my parents
let me.

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Like they were helping me set
this up and they're super

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protective.
Like I was going to go stay on

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random people's couches, guys,
girls, like all sorts of people.

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And my daughter will not be
doing that.

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And so I showed up in Hawaii.
I found a farm within the first

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day.
I lived in a four person tent

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for six months.
I just ran.

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I ended up running the small
permaculture farm.

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The owners ended up being pretty
crazy.

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I thought I would get to stay
there for a long time, but I

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ended up leaving like abruptly
because they were wild people.

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That's a whole story in its own
and a backpack.

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Hawaii for a couple weeks.
My brother and sister grew up

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part of their lives in Hawaii,
so I I felt my connection to go

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to Hawaii.
So that's where I did my

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woofing.
And then I moved to Traverse

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City, MI and I had my first
actual restaurant job and I was

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like, I'm never working in a
restaurant again.

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This is a terrible experience.
I just went to culinary school,

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did all this stuff, but I will
never work in restaurants

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anymore.
The experience was horrible, The

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guys.
Operations or vibe or whatever.

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Yeah, just being a young woman,
the guys were so inappropriate

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and aggressive and just like
pushing me around and like

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verbally and physically, like it
was a terrible situation.

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And I was, I was like, I was
sure that all restaurants would

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be like that.
So like kind of done with this.

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I went and got a nanny job, did
some side work until I figured

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out what to do.
And then I ended up moving back

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to Hawaii and I was doing a
missionary community development

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program.
I thought that I would go

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overseas and live in Papua New
Guinea basically the rest of my

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life at that point.
That's what I was sure that I

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was going to do.
But while I was in Hawaii

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training, I contracted a disease
called rat lung worm disease.

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And I was a fairly healthy
individual before this.

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And it depends on your body and
how much you ingest.

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So it comes from a slug.
So somehow I ate a particle of a

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slug.
Typically it's through like,

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like I would pick avocados up
off the ground, you know, and

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just cut into it because you're
in Hawaii and you're just

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barefoot hippie living.
And, and even that could have

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been enough.
Like if there was slug slime,

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like the crawled over this
avocado and then I cut into it,

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that's how I could have
contracted it.

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We don't know exactly how I got
it, but that's one of the ways

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that it could happen.
Fascinating.

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I.
Don't think I've ever cut.

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I don't think I've ever washed
an avocado in my life.

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I always just cut.
It immediately I know it's not

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something because you're like
you're not eating it.

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So why would you cut into you
know, why would you wash it in

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the states?
You know, like it's been away

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from wherever it was picked from
for long enough that you

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wouldn't get it here.
It's really only you can only

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get it in tropical locations.
But even like Florida has this

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disease.
It's not common though.

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It's a pretty rare thing and
they really try to keep it off

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the news because it could ruin.
At least this is what all the

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people are like within the
support group say it can ruin

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tourism from Hawaii.
So they keep it off the news and

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they put me on the news.
I was the first one to get it

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that year and they were like,
she contracted it, but she's

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perfectly fine.
I was like still hospitalized on

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all sorts of Ivs, like getting
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Felt like I was dying every
single day.

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They thought I had bacterial
meningitis.

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So like I was quarantined.
Like you could die.

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There's snowstorms in Michigan,
so my family can't come and get

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me.
And so like, I was not fine.

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And then on the news, they're
like, she's good.

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So I started joining all these
supports kind of a.

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Microcosm of life in a lot of
ways.

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Like she's fine with like.
This glorified picture.

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And so I was like, I'm fine,
like I'll be out of here in a

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week because the nurses were
like, you're good, you know,

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like all of this will pass in a
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And this was, I was 21 and I'm
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So this was eight years ago.
I still have nerve damage and

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liver issues and all sorts of
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So like 8 years later I still
have plenty of issues that I

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have to deal with every single
day from this thing that they

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said that I'd be fine with
within a couple days and.

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That's wild.
Is it like residual effects or

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is it something that'll never
fully go away?

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Yeah, it's residual effects and
for most people would never go

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away.
Thankfully, like I found really

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good help.
There's a lot of people don't

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find good help.
And when I was in these support

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groups, because right away
you're like, we don't know what

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to do.
And the hospital saying there's

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nothing that you can do because
it's a parasitic infection in

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your brain.
And they ended up giving me a

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treatment that's like illegal
some places and like potentially

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going to be illegal in the
States because when you're

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dealing with parasites, if you
kill them too quickly, it can do

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more damage than good.
And we didn't really know what

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to do because I was in really
rough shape and I was getting

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spinal taps and constant
morphine.

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And, you know, so we decided to
go with it.

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And we don't know if it was
helpful or not, you know,

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because then it died off and I
have nerve damage all over my

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body.
But if it would have stayed in

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my body longer would have had
other effects.

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So there's no way to know what
was the right answer.

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And it's all just a guessing
game for everyone that gets it

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because it affects everyone
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This specific disease was on the
show Monsters, Monsters and me.

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And this athlete was like with
his buddies and they dared him

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to eat a slug.
And he ate the slug and got the

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same thing that I got.
But then he became a paraplegic

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and ended up dying.
And so like, thankfully that did

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not happen to me.
But the people in my support

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group said basically, you'll be
disabled the rest of your life.

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You won't really be able to have
a job.

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You're going to use substance
abuse because your life's going

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to suck, basically.
And I was 21, and I was like, I

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have big dreams for my life.
I do not want that to be part of

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my story.
I don't even want to be on

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medications for the rest of my
life because all the pain that I

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had, the doctors were like,
we'll just stay on the drugs.

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But the drugs made me yeah, for
life.

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And I was like, so angry and out
of it and just not myself.

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Like, my mom is really sweet.
And I would yell at my mom

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because I just couldn't help it,
you know?

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And they're normal drugs that
people take every day, you know,

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like that people are prescribed
to take all of their lives.

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And so I can have a lot of
empathy towards people because

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you never know what kind of
medication they're on.

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You don't know what they're
going through.

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And people, drugs make you
miserable.

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Many majority of them.
They serve a purpose for a time.

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And if someone would have told
me to take some turmeric and

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Wormwood while I was
hospitalized, I would have been

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like, screwed for you.
Like what?

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No.
And that wouldn't have been

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helpful.
I needed it for a time.

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But the fact that the long term
solution was just to stay on

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that forever was not an option
for me because mentally I

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couldn't.
I couldn't do that.

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Yeah, how like how long was was
that until you found like the

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the the solution that ended up
working for you?

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Yeah, So I got sick in January
of whatever year this was.

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And then by June I had, I think
I moved home in May.

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So it was like slow
progressions.

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We didn't know what was going
on.

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I started just with like
headaches and sciatica pain.

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So it was a couple months before
they figured out what it was.

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And then I think in March they
figured out what it was.

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And within a month or two, then
I ended up having to go home

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because it just took time and I
had to stay in Hawaii in the

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hospital and couldn't get on a
plane or anything.

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So then that summer I ended up
finding a company called The

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Wellness Way and someone had
told my mom that I should just

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try it.
And they did all sorts of

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testing.
I was also seeing a Chinese

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medicine doctor and she was
doing some natural stuff and

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acupuncture, but I don't know
how much it worked.

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I was like, so sick.
And then I started seeing The

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Wellness Way and we were doing
chiropractic, but then also

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testing for inflammation.
So they did testing to see my

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food allergies just for the sake
of my body was a huge mess of

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bringing down the inflammation.
And then we did a stool test to

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check out liver damage and
parasites and all that kind of

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stuff.
We did a hormone panel.

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We did basic blood work and feel
like there's something else that

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I'm forgetting that was
important.

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Oh, and then finding like a lot
of heavy metals in my body.

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So right before I went to
Hawaii, it was for like, a

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missionary training program.
My parents had chose to, and I

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don't know we'll go far into
this topic, but my parents chose

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to not vaccinate me growing up.
And so to do missionary work, I

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had to get basically every
vaccine under the sun, and they

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just did it all at once.
So like, yeah, so as an adult,

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you can handle it a little bit
better, but my immune system was

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definitely suppressed for a
period.

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But then I went to Hawaii and I
must have contracted this right

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away and my immune system just
wasn't there.

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So, say, maybe it had been three
months later and I contracted

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it, or say it had been before I
got all the vaccines and

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contracted it.
That could have all looked a lot

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different.
But, you know, my body was in a

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very vulnerable state when this
happened.

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And so they found tons of heavy
metals from the vaccines.

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There was all sorts of issues
from all the medications that I

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was on.
They weren't able to just like

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take me off the medication.
I needed to build my body up

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before I could do that.
So it took quite a few months of

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working with the Wellness way
and eventually I got off all the

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medications and it was a pretty
rough transition because I was

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still in pain.
I was now on a come down from

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being on so many drugs for so
long.

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And it was a very rough period.
And in that period, I tend to

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like want to go and do things
when I'm like, yeah, I don't

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really know what to do right
now.

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So I took a job, as we called
ourselves an audio visual like

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motivational speaker in schools.
So I moved to California from

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Iron Mountain while I'm still
like not very well, but I was

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like, I need to get out of town.
I can't be around my family.

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I don't, I can't do this right
now.

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And so I moved to California and
took a job and I traveled the

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country for four months
presenting in schools on

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character building.
But after four months I was

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like, I can't be on the road
anymore.

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I can't physically, I couldn't
do it.

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So I ended up having to move
back home and I just got a part

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time kitchen job, which also
ended up being terrible.

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But I know I shouldn't have done
that.

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And so I'm off all the
medications and I'm taking the

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supplements and living a
healthier lifestyle and then

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and.
At this time, are you doing like

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the what the the Wellness ways?
What ended up working?

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Is that the LIKE protocol that
you're talking about?

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Yes, yeah.
So.

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Can we talk about it like for
sure, what was the, what was

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like the regimen, what was it
supplements, was it you would

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mention some other things
earlier?

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Like.
What type of supplements did it

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take?
Oh gosh, I don't remember a lot

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of that period of my life got to
be a trip.

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There is, there is definitely a
couple years in there that were

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really traumatic and I'm like,
I, I don't really know what I

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was experiencing because in my
mind it wasn't that bad.

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But then when I think about it,
I'm like, I was sitting in my

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parents basement like super
depressed, making bad decisions

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like not, but then also thinking
this is going to pass really

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quickly.
I'm going to be back in Hawaii.

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I'm going to go overseas and
still do all that in my parents.

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You have to keep that stuff.
You have to keep that light at

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the end of the tunnel thing to
any sense of normalcy.

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But I think I was also.
It would have been helpful to

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chill out.
You know, I think I would have

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healed faster if I would have
just like stopped for a minute

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and taken in what is actually
happening to me.

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And I think that seeing the
good, you know, like cancer

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especially, they're like a lot
of it.

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You know, you can you can defeat
so much with your mind.

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It was a hard to know where to
go with that, you know, and how

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to take care of yourself.
And yeah, so I'm glad I've

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always had a positive mindset.
And I think that's gotten me

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through a lot of things in my
life.

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And so, yeah, they did all these
tests and then I was on

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supplements.
There's supplements for reducing

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inflammation.
There's supplements for pain.

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There was supplements for
parasites.

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I know that a big one is I had
to do a heavy metal detox.

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So there was like sprays and
different things that they would

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give you for that.
And everything's like very

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specifically based on exactly
what your test says.

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So someone else who gets rat
lung worm disease couldn't just

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take the same supplements that I
took because their body was in a

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different state before then you
know, that they need to work on.

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And then I had to do a detox at
a 30 day detox, which helps to

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really like reset things faster.
So they waited for a while

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because if you just do a detox,
like a lot of people will do a

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detox on their own and they'll
buy all these supplements and

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they actually might end up
sicker than they were in the 1st

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place.
Because if your body doesn't

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have the ability to release
those toxins, then you now just

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flooded your body with all the
toxins just kind of all around.

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Because the yeah, the detox is
usually a binder and then it

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floats all around your body.
But it has to get.

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Out, yeah.
So you sometimes need to support

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those pathways to get them out.
And it might not just be like

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taking charcoal, it might be you
have an actual pathway like a

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hormone pathway that's not going
to allow things to come out of

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your body.
So you need to open up that

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hormone pathway.
But you don't want, wouldn't

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want to take up these hormone
supplements unless you know that

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you need them, because then that
can also, you didn't need to

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open it up and you needed to do
something else.

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Then you're kind of left in a
giant mess.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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So I just did exactly what they
told me to do.

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It was super expensive.
I put it on credit cards because

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I had to do it.
I had to get my life back.

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And I and I could see right away
that it was helping and that I

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was able to get off the
medication.

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Such a breath of fresh air when
you started finally seeing some

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progress, right?
Finally.

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Like day-to-day stuff.
Like man, something's finally

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working.
Yeah, yeah.

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And I, I didn't watch a ton of
episodes.

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I don't know where you go with
all these things, but so the

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missionary school that I was at,
I grew up Lutheran.

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And then the missionary school
that I was at was very much a

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like, everyone's speaking in
tongues and they believe in

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miracles and like all this kind
of stuff, which was new to me.

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That's the directions we go, by
the way.

450
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I know it was.
It was very, it was an eye

451
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,400
opening experience, but it can
get very confusing because I'm

452
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,760
at this school really sick,
potentially feeling like I'm on

453
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,960
my deathbed.
And they're like, you know, in

454
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,400
the story where they lower the
guy's bed to the to Jesus to

455
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,840
like heal him, you know, because
they can't get through.

456
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,280
Like these people were like, I'm
going to bring you to these

457
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,160
famous healers so that they can
heal you.

458
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,240
And then they would pray over me
and like nothing happened.

459
00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:14,120
And this.
Was after this was after the

460
00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:16,200
Wellness way progress.
No, this is before.

461
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,520
Before.
I'm super sick, still in Hawaii,

462
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,040
still at this missionary school
that's like really into all this

463
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,880
stuff.
And so these people are, you

464
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:30,800
know, praying for me and these
famous healers and, and you

465
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,920
know, nothing's happening to me.
And then they're like, well,

466
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,760
maybe you are the problem.
Maybe you have a spiritual

467
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,560
blockage and all these things.
And then when I went home, I

468
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,200
would have people still calling
me being like, you just need to

469
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:49,080
believe more that God wants to
heal you and that you don't need

470
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,520
to do anything.
And I'm like, if I don't need to

471
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,640
do anything, how can I, can you
say that I need to do more?

472
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,200
Because obviously I want to
believe that I'm just going to

473
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:02,040
be healed instantly.
And so one of my, and I just

474
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,880
had, I just talked with one of
my employees about this the

475
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,000
other day because we weren't on
the same page about it.

476
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,000
And I feel like I wanted to like
revisit the conversation and

477
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,680
tell her why I was believing
what I was believing.

478
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,640
So how that morphed my view of
Christianity wasn't that God

479
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,000
didn't want to heal me or
anything.

480
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,760
It's that because especially the
field that I'm in, which goes

481
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,640
into why I have this restaurant,
this is I feel like a huge part

482
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,480
of it is sickness is part of
life.

483
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,880
And God may choose to just heal
someone out of the blue, but I

484
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,360
certainly wouldn't have my
restaurant if he would have just

485
00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:44,560
healed me because then I would
have been on the the mission of

486
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,760
I need to tell people they just
need to believe more and do more

487
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,240
and be more Christian.
And that's how God will heal

488
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,960
you.
And God did not heal me that way

489
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,560
in any way.
I believe that he's part of why

490
00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,400
I heal because a lot of people
don't didn't heal.

491
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,160
People died from this exact same
thing that I've had.

492
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:09,280
And he gave me the resources to
be able to be healed.

493
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,880
It wasn't a magical healing, It
wasn't a miracle healing.

494
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,320
I had to do a lot of work to get
healed.

495
00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:20,160
And I think in a lot of ways,
there's so many doors that are

496
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,600
open to us and it's whether we
choose to take those or not, we

497
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,200
may continually choose.
Like I still was drinking

498
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,800
alcohol and I still was like,
maybe even abusing it and making

499
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,680
bad decisions, But I also
continually saw, oh, this is in

500
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,360
front of me.
This is what I need to be doing

501
00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:38,480
right now and taking
opportunities to help, to heal

502
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:43,320
my body, to heal my mind, to
grow, to create a business.

503
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,280
Even though I didn't know what
that was going to look like.

504
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,400
I knew that I just had to keep
stepping through all the open

505
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,360
doors and hoping that God just
takes away all my pain.

506
00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:57,520
That would be really good.
But he also gives us resources.

507
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,520
And you can't just like keep
eating McDonald's every day and

508
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,080
be like, well, God's just going
to make this food nourish me.

509
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,080
Or like, you sit down to the
worst, most unhealthy meal ever

510
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,160
and you're like, God, please
bless this food to my body.

511
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,720
Like, you're eating KFC.
Like that's not what he intended

512
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,040
for us to eat.
So unfortunately, that's not

513
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,440
going to nourish your body.
And as part of the Bible,

514
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,600
gluttony is not something that
we're supposed to be doing.

515
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,920
We're not supposed to be eating
foods that are terrible for you.

516
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,600
You're supposed to treat your
body like a temple.

517
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,000
And I think that through all of
this, the biggest thing is that

518
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,360
we have been given resources to
take care of ourselves well and

519
00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:39,200
to avoid sickness as much as
possible.

520
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,040
And people want to believe that
God's just going to nourish us

521
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,360
through crappy food and through
crappy life decisions.

522
00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:49,560
And that's just not how it works
in my mind anymore.

523
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,880
And that's just been a huge
switch because I had a friend

524
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,560
and her husband was like, well,
God will nourish me through

525
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,880
eating this bad food.
And at that point, I felt like

526
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,840
he knew more than God about me.
And it was before I got sick and

527
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,760
everything.
And in my mind, I'm like, now I

528
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,000
do not believe that at all.
God gives us resources and we

529
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,080
have to choose to be wise with
them.

530
00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:16,080
And eating healthy can be
expensive, but you can do really

531
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,640
simple eating healthy and it
does not have to be expensive.

532
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,000
It's just avoiding processed
foods because processed foods

533
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,200
are super expensive anyway.
So if you're on a budget, you

534
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,560
shouldn't be going and buying
all these processed foods and

535
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,360
snacks because they're not
affordable at all.

536
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:33,600
And so through all of that, I
had to make the pharmacy because

537
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:38,920
I had to give people a way to
have access to healthy food and

538
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,560
to convenient food.
And while it's not super

539
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,680
affordable because I already
don't really make money at my

540
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,640
restaurant yet because I can't,
it's hard to price.

541
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,960
I mean, if we were pricing
appropriately like every other

542
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,440
restaurant making the same
profit margins as other

543
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,400
restaurants, we would be
charging $40 per bowl.

544
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,560
I keep, you know, trying to
convince myself I'm like, if we

545
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,320
just serve more people, then
eventually we'll just get there.

546
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,160
And I'm trying to do that so we
don't have to keep raising our

547
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:08,280
prices because having a
restaurant's not cheap at all

548
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,600
and employees isn't cheap and
healthy food isn't cheap.

549
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,760
So I'm still, you know, trying
to figure that out, but a lot.

550
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,920
Of that comes back to informing
decisions too, though that's an

551
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,440
area of my life that I choose to
spend a significant amount of

552
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,080
our money.
Like we're not, we're not rich

553
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:28,360
by any means, but like where I
plant my resources is like, I'm

554
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,280
cool, spend an extra.
Like we, we buy that type of

555
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:38,440
food because like, if you don't
invest in that, what does it?

556
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,280
What does it matter what else
you, you put your resources

557
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,960
towards?
Because it's going to shorten

558
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,400
everything like from life to
good experiences, like ruining a

559
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,480
day, feeling upset, having an
upset stomach and suddenly.

560
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,680
People are like, I only live
once, I'm going to eat what I

561
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,360
want and then they'll reference.
There's a video, a very famous

562
00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:00,360
video of an old man like swear
he's eating a Snickers and

563
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,600
drinking a Coke and smoking a
cigarette and he's like super

564
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,080
old.
Yeah, he's probably 95.

565
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,440
Yeah.
And I'm like, well, there's some

566
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,400
truth in the fact that he did.
He probably lived a slightly

567
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,920
stress free life and he's made
it through and that's great.

568
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,880
But when you're 200 lbs
overweight and you get cancer,

569
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,360
your mom gets cancer or you
know, like you're doing all

570
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,360
these things that are going to
cause dementia and Alzheimer's

571
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:27,080
when you turn 80, those are all
decisions that you made.

572
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:32,280
And I just see it so many people
around us and this this summer

573
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:37,960
at the farmers market that was
like the every day.

574
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,800
It was a very crazy experience
on the at the Wednesday farmers

575
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,280
market.
It's not necessarily people that

576
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,040
want to go and support farmers.
They're like there for the party

577
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,720
of it the Wednesday.
It's a weird vibe.

578
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,680
Yeah, yeah.
And so all these, every single

579
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,880
Wednesday, there was countless
amounts of people that were

580
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,600
like, food has nothing to do
with the fact that I'm on 10

581
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,640
medications, my doctor told me.
Which is a crazy mindset.

582
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,400
Right.
It doesn't matter what I eat.

583
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,160
I'm never going to get better.
I'm never going to feel better.

584
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,360
I'm never going to have less
pain it.

585
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,560
Literally turns into.
Us.

586
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,680
That's what you want to believe.
That's what you want to believe.

587
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,520
But if you want to hear what I
have to say, I'm here.

588
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,160
I want to help you.
I want to, I want to be a part

589
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,840
of your life and part of your
healing journey.

590
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,120
And a majority of the time they
did want to tell you about their

591
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,720
problems.
Like we would sit there with

592
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,200
individual people when it was
not busy for so long and just

593
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,280
listen to their stories.
And they're in so much pain and

594
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,400
they're miserable physically and
mentally.

595
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,320
Their life kind of sucks and I
have so much empathy because

596
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,960
when I was heavily on drugs, I
was eating really bad and I

597
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,880
couldn't help it.
I was like I had to have a

598
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,760
Snickers I.
Don't that was like comfort for

599
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:46,560
you?
Yes.

600
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,880
And you needed like the foods
that were bad and my in the

601
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,240
middle of the night when I was
in the hospital, the doctors

602
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,960
would bring you ice cream
because you needed something

603
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,040
high fat to go with your pills.
Like that's, that's so messed

604
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,880
up, so crazy.
And they were like, just eat

605
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,520
whatever you want.
And thankfully when I got out of

606
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,760
the hospital, I had someone to
take care of me and she was

607
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,800
feeding me like coconut bars and
macadamia nut milk and you know,

608
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,520
all this really healthy stuff.
So I had someone to support me

609
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,040
in eating healthy.
But a majority of the people,

610
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,280
they're, they're just like my
doctor said, I can do whatever I

611
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,560
want.
They said just eat.

612
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:20,560
Just make sure that you're
eating.

613
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,400
Cancer patients are just eating
whatever they want because they

614
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,560
just want to eat something.
But that's the worst thing that

615
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,400
you could be doing.
Like you have to take charge of

616
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,760
your health because chemo can be
necessary in the natural world.

617
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,880
Even there might be a point
where they're going to send you

618
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,240
for chemo because that's the
only option, but they're not

619
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,840
going to also tell you to go eat
Jimmy John's and Little Caesars

620
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,320
and, you know, all this garbage
food.

621
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,400
They're going to support you
with your diet while you're

622
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,520
doing that because now you're
about to destroy your body and

623
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,320
you need things that aren't
going to support your body

624
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:58,280
through it and.
I mean, I think a really

625
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,120
effective analogy in that is
like one, our food turns into

626
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,040
US, but two, like I envision it
like every time I eat something

627
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,200
good, I feel I feel good about
it because like I just

628
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,600
envisioned it turns into this
little body army that like keeps

629
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,040
it.
It works for me.

630
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,720
It keeps me healthy.
And I'm not saying like I I

631
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,840
still have ice cream, you know,
like we have Friday milkshake

632
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,440
night, but today it is organic
vanilla ice cream with organic

633
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,720
milk.
And like, I still feel good

634
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,240
after eating that, even though
it's some sugar.

635
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,520
Like it's about moderation.
Have never felt good before.

636
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,200
I.
They've never really, because

637
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,000
you can eat one healthy meal,
you're not really going to feel

638
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,720
that good.
Like if you go to the gym one

639
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,600
time after not working out,
honestly, you're going to feel

640
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,880
worse.
You know, like, if you go and

641
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,760
eat like a bowl of vegetables
and you eat crappy, your

642
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,080
stomach's going to hurt.
All that fiber, You're not going

643
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,040
to feel good from it.
And you're going to be like not

644
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,040
doing that again.
Like, I could eat my McDonald's

645
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,920
and I just go on kind of feeling
like my normal crappy self.

646
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,400
But until you feel what it's
like to have energy.

647
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,880
Some people, I believe, have
never known what that was like

648
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,040
since they were a kid.
And maybe even as a kid, I was a

649
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,840
substitute teacher for a couple
years in the midst of all my

650
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,199
sickness and those kids are
miserable because all they eat

651
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:17,000
is garbage food.
They show up with monsters.

652
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,080
Like I don't, I don't think I
ever saw a monster on a kids

653
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,120
desk when I was in high school.
I'm not that old.

654
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,719
But like, they have monsters.
They have.

655
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,360
Like a Monster Energy drink on a
kids.

656
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:27,760
Like a high schooler and they've
got, Oh yeah, high school

657
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,360
McDonald's like I was in.
Virginia like a 7 year old with

658
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,159
a monster.
I was like.

659
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,800
But they've got crappy cupcakes,
you know, with the blue dye for

660
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,560
their snacks for school.
And then all of a sudden their

661
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,920
stomach hurts and they can't pay
attention for the rest of the

662
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,600
day.
Well, yeah.

663
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:45,000
It's Uber common.
It's Uber common.

664
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,360
Yeah.
So that's how that's how I grew

665
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,360
up eating.
And I think that's how so many

666
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,480
people grew up eating.
I think I'm a bit older than

667
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,679
you.
Like in the 90s, like it was

668
00:34:54,679 --> 00:35:00,200
like Chef Boyardee ravioli, fish
sticks, like, Oh my goodness.

669
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,600
The what's the name of the the
banquet?

670
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:07,120
Frozen dinners, like just chock
full of preservatives, crappy

671
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,920
food and and like as a kid, even
though I have a cool story, I'll

672
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,720
tell you in a second about my
kid as a kid, I think you like

673
00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:18,800
were built to counteract that
somewhat.

674
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,360
Like there's so much energy in
there and there's so much like

675
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,120
vitality and the body is
prepared for so much more.

676
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:29,280
But I completely agree.
I, I, I think, and it sucks that

677
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,200
not a lot of people have felt
like waking up in the morning

678
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,160
being like, all right, this is a
like, I feel amazing.

679
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,840
The story recently.
So my son is 4 1/2 right now and

680
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:47,400
I, I bought him these like
protein waffles that he loved

681
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,320
having for breakfast every day.
And like, the ingredients were

682
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,320
decent, but it's still not
ideal.

683
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,880
Like it, it's not what he should
have been.

684
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,240
And I, I don't know how it
turned into a habit, but it was

685
00:35:57,240 --> 00:35:59,640
just one of those things like
kids cling on, do a thing.

686
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,920
And he was really passionate
about it.

687
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,600
Like he, he really resisted.
And probably like maybe three

688
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:10,360
months ago now, we transitioned
to like, I, I played this whole

689
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,680
game of like, do you want to try
a dad has special oatmeal and

690
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,520
made it this whole thing.
And I ate it a couple mornings

691
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,920
and he was looking at me.
And so now like I've

692
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:27,760
transitioned that protein waffle
to like organic oatmeal that's a

693
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,400
much more like whole food
awesome route to eat.

694
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:37,560
And even like at 4, his energy
levels completely different.

695
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,920
So like, and he doesn't know,
but, but like I can see it

696
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,680
through the lens of like just
watching him around the house

697
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,720
and, and just like body
development and how much he does

698
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:55,240
that one little transition in
life has changed his overall

699
00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:57,680
health.
Because like that's where it,

700
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,720
for me, that's where it starts
to become an issue.

701
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:04,600
Like I'll still eat McDonald's,
but it's once every five months

702
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,080
now as opposed to when I was
that high schooler, like it was

703
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:11,560
everyday to the dollar menu
eating 2 double cheeseburgers

704
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,360
and a Mcchicken.
And like, the difference is

705
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,680
drastic.
And it's when it when you can

706
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,320
see it like that in a four year
old, like imagine a 50 year old

707
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,560
doing that that's never eaten
healthy Whole Foods in their

708
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:26,640
life.
Yeah.

709
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,840
Waking up the morning be like,
Dang, I feel 25 again.

710
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,120
Yeah.
That's why and it takes it takes

711
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,880
time too because 50 year old has
been eating garbage for 50 years

712
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,000
and so he's got a long ways to
go on healing that.

713
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:45,560
I just got my husband a food
allergy test and he's 38 and he

714
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,000
always has a runny nose.
And he was like, if this doesn't

715
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,480
work like I don't want to
continue on.

716
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,720
He's all for eating healthy and
like taking care of himself.

717
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:56,720
And I was like, you are 38 years
old.

718
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,000
You have been eating poorly for
38 years.

719
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,800
You've needed to be on allergy
medication basically your entire

720
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,480
life.
You've had ear infection since

721
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:10,600
you were little because it
starts in the womb, like, and I

722
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,800
was like, you're not giving it
three months.

723
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,760
Like this could take years
because you've spent 38 years

724
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:20,880
ruining your body.
Like it's not going to happen

725
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,240
quickly, you know, And I, when I
started with the Wellness way

726
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,880
eight years ago, my hormone
panel was like, you will never

727
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,280
get pregnant.
And as a 21 year old who wanted

728
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,520
like 12 kids in a farm, that was
terrible news.

729
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,920
And last year, a year and a half
ago, my hormone panel was like,

730
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,080
you're not getting pregnant.
So this was kind of a surprise

731
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,400
because I was like, I was
obviously putting in a lot of

732
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,880
work.
I hadn't even met my husband yet

733
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,920
at this point, but I was like,
I'm getting older.

734
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,040
I need to get my body ready set
when I do meet my person.

735
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,400
And we were ready because I
want, I've wanted kids my whole

736
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,600
life and I wanted a lot of kids.
And that's all changed.

737
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:04,040
But even just a year difference
of I was like, OK, I'm putting

738
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,360
in the work.
I spent the money and I got a

739
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,280
bunch of hormone tests done
because I've been a long time

740
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,880
because I wasn't really thinking
about that.

741
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,920
And I did all the supplements
and more diet changes and adding

742
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,840
fats and all these different
things because I was like, I

743
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,440
need to have kids.
So then we were like first time,

744
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,920
we were like, if it happens, it
happens.

745
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,320
And then it happens because I
prepared my body.

746
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,480
For it to happen.
But I spent eight years working

747
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,160
on it, and some women also go
into it and they're like, I'm

748
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,880
having fertility issues I'm
having.

749
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:36,120
I mean, it's a terribly tender,
horrible topic that I don't even

750
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,040
like to think about.
But it's just so real is the

751
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,400
fertility issues that women are
experiencing are not.

752
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,000
That was just God's plan.
That's not it.

753
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,480
There's so much fertility issues
because of the foods and the

754
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,560
hormone disruptors and stress
and all these things that are

755
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,400
making both men and women sick.
It's not always even just the

756
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,400
woman.
It could be the man's fault too.

757
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,200
And.
The startling thing about that

758
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,320
is if you look at the trend
analysis over like the last 60

759
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:11,040
years, like falling off of a
Cliff, fertility, just

760
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,160
worldwide, not even in the US,
but worldwide, it, it's

761
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:19,040
startling that to have the
mindset of like this is out of

762
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,600
our control.
You know what I mean?

763
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,760
Like it's obviously something.
Yeah.

764
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,760
And it's and it's, yeah, not a
place that you want to go to

765
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,520
when a miscarriage happens that
you're like, it's anyone's.

766
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,160
You don't want to talk.
You don't even, you don't even

767
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:34,160
bring it up at that point.
But you do have to be aware that

768
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,040
there is a reason why it
happened and there are things

769
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,360
that are disrupting your
hormones.

770
00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:41,680
And as soon as I found out that
I was pregnant, I was like, I

771
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,680
got to reduce my stress at work.
I got to start eating.

772
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,080
I was eating like one meal a
day, working 80 hours a week,

773
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,720
like super high stress.
And I was like, I'm done.

774
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:52,720
I'm not like I have to start.
This is my number one priority

775
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:54,200
now.
And I still had to go and do all

776
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,480
the things, but I was like, I'm
taking all the supplements to

777
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,120
combat it.
I'm, you know, there was still a

778
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,680
chance that it could all happen
and I was like, I have to do

779
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:06,880
what I can do now that I'm in
this situation, but preparing

780
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,480
for it.
There's so much that women and

781
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,000
men need to do.
I even made my husband do a

782
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,080
detox before we even got married
because I was like, you can pass

783
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,520
things on to me.
And I don't want your like dirty

784
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,720
DNAI want you to clean yourself
up.

785
00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:24,920
And so we both, you know, did
the work and put an effort into

786
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:29,440
it, but so many people,
regardless of pregnancy or not,

787
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,320
need to work on preventing
whatever the next disaster is in

788
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,240
your life because you never know
when it's going to hit cancer is

789
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:38,200
going to come.
I know too many people with

790
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,920
cancer that were like, I was
perfectly healthy.

791
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,440
And I'm like, I know what you
were eating and what you were

792
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,880
doing with your life.
You were not at all.

793
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,320
But the problem is that doctors
are saying that you're perfectly

794
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,400
healthy.
You go to get a physical and

795
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,720
that blood work.
I've had people, I'll have

796
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:57,400
people give me their blood work.
So I missed the part where I

797
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,880
trained with the Wellness way.
So I can do all their testing

798
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,960
now and supplements.
And so I can help people get the

799
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,040
test.
I can read the test.

800
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,160
I can give them supplements,
tell them how to do everything

801
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:11,560
that a doctor helped me with.
And I'm just a like a health

802
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,440
coach.
I don't do that though, but

803
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,320
people bring me their blood work
and they'd be like, well, my

804
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,760
doctor says like I'm perfectly
healthy but like they're £100

805
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,200
overweight, they haven't had a
period.

806
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,400
They are never well, they're
depressed and then their doctor

807
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:37,840
gives them blinking.
That's OK birth control and and

808
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,440
then the birth control ends up
needing to put them on an anti

809
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,320
depression medication and then
now they're thyroids jacked up.

810
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,200
So now they think they thyroid
medication and now everything is

811
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,120
just super out of sorts.
You know, it's just a, it never

812
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,240
started with what are you
eating?

813
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,360
What does your everyday life
look like?

814
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,720
I didn't start with that at all.
They said your hormones are

815
00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:01,040
jacked up.
We're going to put you on birth

816
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,520
control, your thyroid's a little
bit off instead of changing your

817
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,520
diet.
I also had thyroid issues.

818
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,480
My whole family on my mom's
side's on thyroid medication.

819
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:15,120
And they just think that my side
of the family's lucky and I'm

820
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,240
like, well, we have very
different lives.

821
00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:19,280
You know, we don't.
My family wasn't smoking and

822
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,760
drinking and eating and garbage
and partying and doing all these

823
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,680
things that your family did
growing up.

824
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:29,280
So we're not necessarily lucky.
We just made better decisions

825
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,480
from a young age.
I think, and I think one of the

826
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:37,120
main issues is that access to
the knowledge to make those

827
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,920
better decisions is hard to come
by.

828
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:46,800
There are a lot of resources put
in another direction to craft a

829
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:51,800
different narrative about it.
So and that's one of the sticky

830
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,920
points with the conversation,
right?

831
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:58,560
It's because we live like
everything we do, everyone,

832
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,800
everybody feels like it's under
a microscope. 2 Everybody has

833
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:07,080
access to almost like this
copious amount of information

834
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,120
that's like, I think people very
quickly get lost in this like

835
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:18,360
mouse wheel of what you know,
what is the right quote UN quote

836
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,160
right decision for me.
But I, I think it a lot of it

837
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:28,120
starts with role clarification,
like when a a doctor is

838
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:33,720
definitely going to be there to
fix your broken leg and to patch

839
00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:36,960
a gunshot wound or keep you
alive.

840
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,960
Doesn't need to know that,
right?

841
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,440
But a Doctor Who does a physical
going over your general health,

842
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,800
that's the problem, is that
they're not helping you.

843
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,600
And they might send you to a
dietitian who will then show you

844
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,280
the food pyramid, which is
changing.

845
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,880
I don't know that that's
actually official yet, you know,

846
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,040
and how long that takes.
I mean the bottom 1 was just eat

847
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:05,760
as much as bread as you want,
which is awesome but not awesome

848
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,440
at the same time.
But but yeah, that's where I'm

849
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:13,360
getting the role clarification.
Like day-to-day Wellness, like,

850
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,080
yeah, go get your blood checked
and make sure you don't have

851
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,000
cancer.
Make sure you don't have these

852
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,400
like things overtaking your
body.

853
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,560
But at the same time, like
day-to-day Wellness, that blood

854
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,560
draw that says like, OK, that
list the levels that comes in

855
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,600
your little app from the doctor.
That's not your overall health.

856
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,440
That's like you'll continue
living living for a considerable

857
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,720
future.
Yeah, but.

858
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,880
Right.
But what's the quality of it

859
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,240
like?
Do you have energy when you wake

860
00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:43,240
up in the morning?
Do you have all of these things

861
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,520
that provide a quality life?
Yeah.

862
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,480
You know.
Yeah, yeah.

863
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,080
When I was trying to figure out
through the parasite, I had a

864
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,000
ton of nerve pain.
Like I couldn't sleep.

865
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,600
Everything was unbearable.
And it was the whole right side

866
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,680
of my face, my left arm, my
whole left back and my entire

867
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,440
left leg.
And it would be like pins and

868
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,960
needles firing this leg.
All the skin was totally dead

869
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,360
like I'll get acupuncture and
couldn't feel needles going into

870
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,160
it or anything.
And they said there's nothing

871
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,840
wrong.
And the only thing that we can

872
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,160
offer you is gabapentin which is
a nerve controller.

873
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:25,080
Which messed my mood up, messed
up mentally and within a year I

874
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:29,400
figured out my food allergies
cause stirring.

875
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,160
So like if I want to have a
glass of wine, I know that I

876
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,360
have a yeast allergy, which a
lot of people do.

877
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,800
And so that's going to make it
inflamed sugar makes it inflamed

878
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,240
gluten, makes it inflamed dairy.
So for me specifically, these

879
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:44,920
things were causing inflammation
in my body and then my nerves

880
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,160
would be out of control.
So I think about all the people

881
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,040
who have arthritis, you know,
like like 50% of older people

882
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,440
have arthritis and it's starting
too young because we're sitting

883
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,320
on our phones and sitting at a
computer and everything.

884
00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:00,840
And they just go on medication.
Or then they like want to get

885
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,080
turmeric pills or go on a juice
cleanse and do all these things

886
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:09,120
instead of just like avoiding a
few triggers, which for me, as

887
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,880
long as I avoid those things,
then I don't have any pain at

888
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,240
all.
Whereas before, like I would cry

889
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:18,480
like I was so unbearable and
then mentally it was unbearable

890
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,000
because I was always in pain and
I was always uncomfortable and,

891
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,880
and no one other than the
Wellness way, you know,

892
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,680
suggested that that might be the
cause of it.

893
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,720
And even after I saw the
Wellness way, I still was having

894
00:47:31,720 --> 00:47:33,560
nerve pains.
It took a couple years for all

895
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,160
that to get figured out.
So I was still occasionally go

896
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,440
see a doctor and at one point I
was like, I'm not going to the

897
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:40,800
doctor anymore.
Like there's no point.

898
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,520
I go and do all these things and
tell them on my issues and they

899
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,120
just want to suggest drugs and
they're not actually helping me.

900
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,400
And why do I have insurance, you
know, other than a catastrophe

901
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,760
where I break a bone or
something like that happens.

902
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:58,440
And so I've been to a doctor in
so many years because I know

903
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,200
that any general issue that I'm
going to have, I can go and see,

904
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,600
I can go see a chiropractor, I
can go see a natural doctor, or

905
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,560
I can just check my diet and be
like, have you really been that

906
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,880
good?
And, you know, even a pizza can

907
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,880
mess me up for a week long, you
know?

908
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,600
So yeah, it's frustrating.
Yeah, yeah.

909
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:23,120
So my like to keep for my jobs
insurance like I have to have

910
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,600
the yearly thing.
And it's always a fun

911
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,160
conversation.
I'm lucky that our primary care

912
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,480
provider, like she has an open
mind, she's cool.

913
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,080
And I like talk very openly
about the the decisions I make

914
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,480
for my health and stuff like
that.

915
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:41,040
And I think, I hope anyway.
And it seems like, and this is a

916
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,040
very unique lens because this is
what I see, but what I'm

917
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:50,360
experiencing at least through
that experience is and how would

918
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,600
you explain?
I I see that the like the

919
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:59,560
traditional like medicine and in
hospitals and doctors, I see

920
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,440
that trending in the direction
of like starting to understand

921
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:08,480
and like not only understand but
accommodate and encourage this.

922
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,800
I have to.
I think at this point they don't

923
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,560
have a choice, right?
How they're going to stop going?

924
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:17,240
Exactly how do you not like
every, whatever industry you're

925
00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:21,760
in, you have to evolve or die.
And it's just that that let

926
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,320
that's lagged behind for far too
long.

927
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,400
And I, you know, there's so many
different levers that are pulled

928
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,080
because of it coming all the way
back to like the individuality

929
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:37,000
of things like this, right?
Like that system is not built

930
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,920
for individuality.
It's built for

931
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,240
compartmentalization.
And X percentage of the

932
00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:47,040
population has this disease and
the numbers say that the highest

933
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,200
percentage of help is going to
come from this path.

934
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,600
But one, that's not like
all-encompassing.

935
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:58,280
And two, the more you do that,
the bigger you make the buckets,

936
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,520
the more people fall through the
cracks at the bottom.

937
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,520
And there has to be a better
way.

938
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,600
There are so many directions we
could go with this conversation.

939
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:11,480
There's a couple things I clung
on to 1 to kind of shift gears a

940
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:16,680
little bit is the the
intersection or the parallelity

941
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:23,560
of might have just made-up that
word, but that's OK of faith and

942
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:29,520
a positive mindset and like
religious beliefs, along with

943
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,080
all of the other things that
that come into making good

944
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,800
decisions and doing what's right
for your body.

945
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,320
And like we've talked about
stress a lot already today,

946
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:47,440
something like stress even I
think those two things, whether

947
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,120
on one side or the other,
there's never this silver bullet

948
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:51,960
right there.
There.

949
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,240
You like you had the
conversation with your husband,

950
00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:55,640
like he wants to try for 90
days.

951
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,840
Like no, we're going to go three
years and try something.

952
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:04,640
The the silver bullet mentality
of where we're at of like a

953
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,800
quick fix, I think is what
breeds some of that cartments

954
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,800
compartmentalization because
like wherever you get your

955
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,840
positive mindset from, that's
super important.

956
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,880
It could be faith, it could be
believing in the frequencies of

957
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,760
the universe and that's like
inherently God or whatever it

958
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:21,760
is.
Like whatever, wherever your

959
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,520
belief structure is, when you
combine that positive long term

960
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:33,840
mindset with like educated,
informed, rational decision

961
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:39,440
making, there are routes that
you can go that maybe aren't the

962
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:44,200
quick fix but end up being the
right route for a lot of people.

963
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:45,760
Right?
That's kind of what I'm hearing.

964
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,400
Yeah, Yeah.
It is hard to be in a world

965
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,000
because a lot of people will
come to me and they'll be like,

966
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,640
what do you think about this and
what do you think about this?

967
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,520
And I'm like, it's like red
light therapy and vibration

968
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,720
plates and, you know, all these
individual things that can have

969
00:51:57,720 --> 00:52:00,800
great health benefits.
And then I always tell them I'm

970
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:06,120
like, but if your diet sucks or
if you have a lot of stress and

971
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:14,080
I on the same topic, it they all
have to come together like at

972
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,840
the same time, like you have to
be working, educating yourself

973
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,280
on how to deal with all those
things.

974
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,760
So the Wellness way they talk
about they have three TS

975
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,800
traumas, toxins and thoughts.
And these are three things that

976
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,040
affect your health greatly.
So there's chiropractors.

977
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,400
So they talk about traumas in
the sense of physical traumas is

978
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,600
your body.
Did you get into a car accident?

979
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,080
Did something happen?
You can also go into, did you

980
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,040
have some traumatic things?
And then those are being stored

981
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,040
like your hips store a lot of
things when you do yoga, like I

982
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,280
do yoga like once every six
months and I cry every time

983
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,720
because I'm like, oh, there's so
much stress stored in my body.

984
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,640
I know.
And if I did it more often, I

985
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,640
would feel better.
And I just haven't gotten around

986
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,520
to it.
And then they go with toxins,

987
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:59,440
which is food and laundry
detergent and perfume and air

988
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:00,720
fresheners and all that kind of
stuff.

989
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,000
And then thought, so then the
stress side of it.

990
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:09,440
And when I found the Wellness
way, I not when I found them

991
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,920
before I trained with the
Wellness way.

992
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,800
I've been working on my traumas
like all these big things that

993
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,280
had happened.
I'd seen a chiropractor my whole

994
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,080
life, so I wasn't super
concerned about that side.

995
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,320
And then I was working on the
toxins super hard and I felt

996
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:23,960
like I just wasn't getting
better.

997
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,840
And I was in a place of I'd
already been doing it for about

998
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:35,040
I think 2 years and I had hit
like a hit a wall.

999
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,640
You know, I still had some
really big issues that I just

1000
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,760
couldn't get through.
And I was confused because I was

1001
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,160
working so hard and I just
wasn't getting better.

1002
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:47,000
And my business, my now business
partner who runs the Wellness

1003
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:52,920
way, he brought up a situation
of if you, you can give a woman

1004
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,200
or a man all the supplements and
all the lifestyle changes and

1005
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:57,320
all the chiropractor
adjustments.

1006
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,360
But if they're in a toxic work
environment, if they're in

1007
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,400
abusive relationship, if, if one
of these things are happening

1008
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:08,200
that's causing a lot of stress
and emotional distress, your

1009
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,880
body will never get better.
So it doesn't matter how much of

1010
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,560
my guys you take, it doesn't
matter how much red light

1011
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,160
therapy you have, you will never
get better.

1012
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:22,400
And I was in the midst of a
abusive marriage.

1013
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,280
So in the between getting sick
and opening the restaurant, I

1014
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:31,840
had a marriage that I entered
into because I was on so many

1015
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,400
drugs when I met him, I was not
making life, good life decisions

1016
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,960
because I wasn't like mentally
there, you know, like I feel

1017
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,520
like that's a thing.
Like don't make big life

1018
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,000
decisions when you're on tons of
drugs.

1019
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:43,400
Nobody told me that.
I don't know.

1020
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,160
I don't know why that wasn't
like a thing, but nobody told me

1021
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,320
not to do it.
And so I I went ahead with that

1022
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:54,040
and I was in an abusive marriage
and I was like, I'm never going

1023
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,640
to get better.
I'm never going to get out of

1024
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,000
the situation.
Like I don't have the mental

1025
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,480
capacity to do it.
But now I'm stuck in a very

1026
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:05,040
stressful situation.
And I did get out of it.

1027
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:11,120
And after I got out of it, I
broke out in rashes for a year.

1028
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,640
I had so many health issues.
I like because my body was

1029
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,000
holding on to so much and then I
was, you know, coming out of

1030
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,240
fight or flight.
I was still running my

1031
00:55:19,240 --> 00:55:21,800
restaurant.
I was working morning to night.

1032
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,920
I was drinking plenty of
alcohol.

1033
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,960
I was doing all sorts of things
to just cope with all of it.

1034
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:33,280
And it wasn't until I got some
downtime and some just rest that

1035
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,480
I was like, so many issues that
I've been dealing with went away

1036
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,640
then.
So all this stuff came up.

1037
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,640
But once I got out of that
situation, it actually took a

1038
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,360
long time after.
And then all of a sudden, so

1039
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,520
many things cleared up.
My skin cleared up, mental

1040
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,640
issues cleared up, physical
issues cleared up.

1041
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,640
And.
Takes time for the body to

1042
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,000
normalize.
It takes a lot of time, but if I

1043
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,600
would have stayed in that
situation, I never would have

1044
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:56,960
gotten better.
There's so many other things I

1045
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,320
would have, you know, 'cause
that.

1046
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,920
But I recently been working with
a woman who gets food from us

1047
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,200
for the restaurant.
And I was telling her all the

1048
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,760
time because she was so sick and
doing all this well in this way

1049
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,120
stuff and buying all this food
for me.

1050
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:10,880
And I was like, I don't want you
to keep wasting your money

1051
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,400
because in the toxic work
environment that you have.

1052
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:14,840
Like she wasn't even allowed to
have a lunch break.

1053
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,680
They took away their break spot.
They took away like so she's

1054
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,120
working 10 hour days and she's
not allowed to stop to eat and

1055
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,040
she's super under way and like
they're just abusing her at this

1056
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,040
point.
And I was like, you won't get

1057
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,560
better.
Like I sat her down and I was

1058
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,360
like, you're not going to get
better ever.

1059
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,880
Stop spending your money here.
Stop spending your money at the

1060
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,360
one this way because you're not
going to get better.

1061
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,480
You have to quit your job.
So she quit your job.

1062
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,280
You know, I'm glad that she made
that decision.

1063
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,480
Hopefully I could have been a
person to.

1064
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,200
I don't mind being someone who's
a little bit harsh with people

1065
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,640
because she needs someone needed
to say that because you're not

1066
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,320
going to get better in that kind
of stressful situation. 10 hour

1067
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,960
days without a lunch break is
like, not only like wrong, it's

1068
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:53,920
against the law.
Yeah.

1069
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,400
And you're like, you can snack
and stuff, but that's not a meal

1070
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,200
she needs to eat at that point.
You need two to three meals and

1071
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,840
a 10 hour shift.
So yeah, I hope that she starts

1072
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,360
to see some healing.
But again, it could take.

1073
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,000
I told her I was like, it could
take a really long time.

1074
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,200
You've been in fight or flight
for so many years.

1075
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:12,800
I don't even know how many
years.

1076
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,520
And so it could take a really
long time to come out of this

1077
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:17,920
and for things to start getting
better.

1078
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,960
And you might just need to rest
for a really long time.

1079
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,000
Find some joyful things to do.
Keep taking care of yourself.

1080
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,560
Keep eating my food.
It is good for you.

1081
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,720
But there's no point in spending
all that time and money and

1082
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,800
energy on something if you're
going to stay in a toxic

1083
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,040
environment.
So there's like, there is no

1084
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,280
magic pill because you have to
work on all the things.

1085
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,600
You might not be in a toxic
environment.

1086
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,960
You might have like a very
peaceful job and you might be

1087
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,960
eating really healthy, but you
never worked through traumas

1088
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,840
that happened in your past life.
And so your body's holding on to

1089
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,240
those things.
And that could be making you

1090
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,080
sick as well.
Yeah, 100% the like.

1091
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,680
And I think that's the good
thing about the impacts of

1092
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,120
stress is because they're pretty
readily apparent, right?

1093
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,200
Like when even if you think
about when you get a cold, like

1094
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:04,120
if you get stressed for a few
days, you're more apt to get a

1095
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,080
cold.
And I think like even that

1096
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,920
baseline knowledge is really
interesting to talk about.

1097
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,320
Yeah, I hear a lot of teachers,
they're like every time I get a

1098
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,920
winter break, I get sick because
they just go, go, go, go, you

1099
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,560
know, like I'm hoping teachers
stop doing that in the future.

1100
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,880
But in the past, teachers work
day and night and weekends and

1101
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,480
everything and, you know, way
outside what they're getting

1102
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,320
paid to do.
And then they finally get a

1103
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,400
break and then they're sick the
whole break because they never

1104
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,400
took a break, you know, And then
they had to waste their whole

1105
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,280
week long winter break because
because they just work

1106
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,400
themselves too hard and now
they're sick. 100% absolutely.

1107
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,760
Yeah.
The another one of those like

1108
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:44,440
environmental demands that
sometimes people feel their

1109
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,320
employers place on them.
But like we also have to set

1110
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,000
self-imposed limits of
absolutely like it, like you

1111
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,360
were talking about with your
pregnancy, like OK, towards the

1112
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,760
end, this is what's going to
happen because this is what's

1113
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,040
best for my body and everything
that comes with it.

1114
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,120
Awesome, super good
conversation.

1115
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,840
I want to really shift gears
because I like can we can I know

1116
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,760
the story of the people in
Hawaii?

1117
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,920
I want to use that as a whole.
Another one one.

1118
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,880
It's a yes, awesome.
So like what, you know, talk

1119
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,640
about a great journey for an 18
year old human.

1120
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,840
Like, OK, going to kick it in
Vail for a while.

1121
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,200
Next thing I'm going to Hawaii
like life experiences.

1122
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,040
But what is what's the Hawaii
story?

1123
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,720
Why?
Why is it a whole nother story?

1124
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:33,160
Well, there's so many things
that I'm confused on how I got

1125
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,160
there and why I was there and
all the things that happened.

1126
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,240
And I I've never really like
come back to that because it was

1127
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,920
life just kept happening.
So like I didn't get to do that

1128
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,520
much reflection on it.
And I was telling my husband

1129
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,840
some of the things that recently
after I had not talked about

1130
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:53,760
that in just a long time.
And I was like, what was wrong

1131
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,840
with me?
Like, I hope I don't if my mom

1132
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,200
and dad watch this, but I hope I
don't mess my kids up enough

1133
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:03,000
where they feel like they need
to go and do this kind of life

1134
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:09,760
like search, you know?
And again, everything like when

1135
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,360
it comes to the restaurant,
there was so many things that

1136
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:18,080
like brought me there in Hawaii.
So I actually just had $400.00

1137
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,480
and.
Now, I will say, before I left

1138
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,520
for Hawaii, I met this girl when
I was snowboarding in Iron

1139
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,200
Mountain and she wanted to come
with me.

1140
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:32,520
And my parents, even though I
was like an adult and making

1141
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:39,760
this big decision on my own,
they were like, no, we keep you

1142
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,200
can't bring this girl.
And I listen to them because

1143
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:47,880
they were like, if she comes and
something happens, her parents

1144
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:52,320
can't financially bail her out.
And while my parents were not

1145
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,920
paying for me to go and do this,
if something bad were to happen

1146
01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:00,200
to me, they could help me, you
know, and this, this girl who I

1147
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,480
wanted to come with me.
So I had a friend to travel with

1148
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,240
because I've never done
something with a friend before.

1149
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,880
Her family was in a situation
where if she needed to get a

1150
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,440
$600.00 plane ticket, because
that's what it can cost to come

1151
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,360
back from Hawaii, couldn't pay
for that.

1152
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,320
If something happened, if a
medical situation happened, if

1153
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:20,160
she needed to get a evac out of
there, they couldn't help her.

1154
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:26,920
And so I will say, while I've
done a lot of, I had a lot of

1155
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,640
cool experiences and I paid for
everything on my own.

1156
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,840
Really weird foresight by the
way, with what ended up

1157
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,040
happening to you.
Like, isn't that crazy?

1158
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,640
My parents have told me many
times I'm not coming to save

1159
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:41,080
you.
And in my adult years, I have

1160
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,560
been a little too reckless and
they've had to save me many,

1161
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:49,520
many, many times.
And I don't, I don't know if

1162
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,440
that's a good thing to know that
your parents can help you out so

1163
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,480
much because maybe wouldn't have
made so many bad decisions if

1164
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,240
they weren't like going to be
there for me.

1165
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,360
But I'm super glad that they
were there for me.

1166
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,160
As many, you know, things as I
can say, as you know, they might

1167
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,120
have messed me up and caused me
to do some of these things.

1168
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:11,640
They, they have helped me a lot.
I did tell my parents when I was

1169
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,680
13, my parents were not married.
They've been living together my

1170
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,400
whole life.
They got together, had my

1171
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,880
brother.
So they ended up being together

1172
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:21,800
for like 30 years and no longer
live together.

1173
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:27,960
But they, I told them if you
don't get married, you guys are

1174
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,440
setting a bad example by the,
the life that you're living

1175
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,360
because they just wanted, they
had weird reasons for not

1176
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,040
getting married, not like legit
reasons.

1177
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,120
And they didn't have good
communication and all this kind

1178
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,280
of stuff.
And I told them I'm going to

1179
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,440
pick the wrong husband because
I'm watching what you guys are

1180
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,560
doing.
I do not remember this at all.

1181
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:47,840
But at 13, I told my mom this,
it's funny.

1182
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,560
And then I ended up going to
marry someone that was in a, you

1183
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,360
know, it was a similar
situation, much worse situation,

1184
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,640
but I, I went in the pattern and
my mom also had a bad first

1185
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,840
husband and terrible situation.
And I was like, I followed

1186
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,800
exactly in the footsteps that I
knew I was smarter than that,

1187
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,760
but I was so sick, you know,
back to Hawaii.

1188
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:13,240
I, I went there knowing if
something bad happened, I had

1189
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,840
parents that could financially
bail me out if needed.

1190
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:17,960
So I didn't get to bring this
friend with me because they were

1191
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,000
concerned about me getting into
a situation where I have to take

1192
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:22,880
care of her and then they have
to take care of her.

1193
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:28,760
And so I went by myself and I
was staying with my sister's

1194
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,520
friend for one night before I
was about to go and couch surf.

1195
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,480
And I'd already lined up a week
of couch surfing.

1196
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,360
Every single night was going to
be a different night.

1197
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,440
And it's an actual website and
you message people and say they

1198
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,360
just are offering it for free
because they think it's cool to

1199
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:46,880
meet travelers.
And I was 19, super naive.

1200
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,640
I think everyone is safe and
everyone is good.

1201
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,760
And I just have no concept of
people are bad, you know,

1202
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:54,480
already, like some bad things
have happened.

1203
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,760
I'm like a golden retriever.
It just like resets, you know,

1204
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,320
like I just don't hold on to any
of it, which isn't great, but I

1205
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:07,320
that's just who I am.
And so I take my sister's

1206
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,120
friend's car and I just type in
farm.

1207
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,880
Woofing has a website.
I didn't use this website for

1208
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,480
some reason.
I just like couldn't find the

1209
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:18,800
right fit.
I typed in farms and the island

1210
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,120
of Oahu is like pretty big.
There's a lot there.

1211
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,280
There's a lot of people.
It can take quite a few hours

1212
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,960
just to get through like Waikiki
area because of traffic and

1213
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:28,400
everything.
So I borrow her car.

1214
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,440
I drive to the first farm and I
get out and it's called Wally's

1215
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:32,880
Farm.
There's a bunch of farms around

1216
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,520
it.
And I was like, hey, I see that

1217
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,320
you have tents on your farm.
Do you do woofing?

1218
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,320
Can I come and stay with you?
And they said, no, we're full.

1219
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,160
And but they were still showing
me the farm.

1220
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:47,600
And then I started walking
around and it was a native woman

1221
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,880
from there.
She was from Okinawa.

1222
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,520
She's not native to Hawaii.
And I just heard it started

1223
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,840
telling her my story and why I
thought that God wanted me to be

1224
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:01,960
there and all the stuff.
And she was like, actually, we

1225
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,040
have someone leaving today.
If you come back tonight, we'll

1226
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,120
have their tent cleaned out and
you can come and stay in it.

1227
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,120
And it's like pitched tents,
like a little tiny four person

1228
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:11,240
tent.
You can't stand up in it or

1229
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:12,960
anything.
And it's like, go and get my

1230
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:19,000
stuff and I go back to this farm
and I cancel all of the couch

1231
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,560
surfing that I'm supposed to do
because I don't need to stay

1232
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:22,720
there anymore.
I'm going to go live at this

1233
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,080
farm.
And everything seems good.

1234
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,720
There's like 14 people living on
this five acres small

1235
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:33,200
permaculture farm and they've
got chickens and pigs and banana

1236
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,920
trees and papaya trees and all
the fruits and vegetables.

1237
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,160
And it's just magical.
And people come and visit this

1238
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:39,800
farm and it's the most beautiful
thing I've ever seen.

1239
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,040
And I told them right away, I
was like, I'll stay here for as

1240
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:45,160
long as you guys will let me.
Like in a year, 2 years, we'll

1241
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,320
build like a little pavilion
because they'd already started

1242
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:48,480
one.
I'll run the farm.

1243
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,680
I'll do whatever you guys want
me to do because I'd already

1244
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,600
gotten some education in
agriculture.

1245
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,400
And I was just stoked about the
agriculture side of things.

1246
01:05:56,040 --> 01:06:00,320
And one of the people that I was
supposed to do the couch surfing

1247
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:04,000
with, he was from, his name was
Farley and he's from Brazil.

1248
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,760
And Brazilian men are kind of
known for being a little like

1249
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:12,720
pushy and just very forward.
And he was like, do you want to

1250
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:17,440
go Cliff jumping?
I'll just take you around the

1251
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:18,800
island a little bit to do
something.

1252
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:20,480
I was like, yeah, that'd be cool
because I didn't know anyone.

1253
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,720
And so we went Cliff jumping.
It's just him and I Everything

1254
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:30,040
was cool and good.
And then so I thought that he

1255
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:31,800
was kind of normal.
Everything seemed fine.

1256
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:35,520
And then he asked me if I wanted
to go around the island.

1257
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,840
And I was like, yeah, that'd be
amazing.

1258
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,040
Like, he's lived here for a
super long time and he can show

1259
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:47,720
me all these cool locations.
And so while we're driving in

1260
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,960
his, he's got like one of those
cool hippie vans.

1261
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:51,840
He says that we're going to
camp.

1262
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,840
And I was like, oh, I don't know
that I want to camp because I

1263
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,400
don't know you.
And then he goes on to say.

1264
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,520
Because you're already almost,
you're already pretty much

1265
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,960
camping too.
Like, you're like already fully

1266
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,160
living in town.
This doesn't sound that exciting

1267
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,760
anymore.
And nobody really knows where I

1268
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,000
am.
Like, these people don't know me

1269
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,080
yet.
Don't tell my parents.

1270
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:16,960
I'm going with this random guy.
And then he goes on to say, what

1271
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,360
would you do if someone, like,
tried to take advantage of you?

1272
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:25,240
And I was like, then I'm like
freaking out.

1273
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:29,960
He asked me that out loud.
And I was like, I don't know.

1274
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,680
He's like, because I'd probably
like try to kill you.

1275
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:34,960
This is like the start of my,
I'm 19.

1276
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:41,680
I think everyone's good.
And so I was like after a bit

1277
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:44,000
because I'm like, OK, let's get
out of this conversation.

1278
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:48,160
And then I, I'm like, just play
it cool because now I'm probably

1279
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:55,280
not returning home.
And he, he stops and takes me to

1280
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,640
all these super cool places,
which just is a terribly

1281
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,360
traumatic experience.
And I don't care about any of it

1282
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,080
because now I'm just freaked out
and I want to go home.

1283
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,120
And I'm like, can you like
please Take Me Home?

1284
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,880
And we end up having to sleep in
his van because he won't Take Me

1285
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:08,240
Home.
But I'm like I don't feel like I

1286
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,840
can call or tell anyone because.
Did you have a cell phone at

1287
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,760
this time or no?
I do have a cell phone, but I

1288
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,760
didn't know anyone there, right?
Who do you call?

1289
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,680
So yeah, you probably.
Didn't even have the farm You

1290
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,760
were sleeping's phone number.
No, no, I don't have anyone that

1291
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,720
I can like text, you know?
And I was like, I'm not going to

1292
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,800
text my parents.
I was like, sure, it's going to

1293
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,399
be fine.
Nothing happens.

1294
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:30,279
I get back safe the next day and
I was like, obviously blocking

1295
01:08:30,279 --> 01:08:32,920
him on everything.
I don't think I even told anyone

1296
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:34,600
that this happened.
Probably should have called the

1297
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,960
cops.
I had another stalker experience

1298
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:41,520
in Vail too and I never called
the cops.

1299
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,120
I just wasn't that smart and I
really should have taken it more

1300
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,560
seriously because I just didn't
think it was going to be that

1301
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:47,840
bad.
But then I'm like, what if

1302
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:48,920
they're doing this to other
people?

1303
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,520
Anyways?
There's all sorts of other weird

1304
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,760
stuff that happens in that
drive.

1305
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,439
But then like a week later I'm
living on the farm still.

1306
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:02,080
I've blocked him on everything.
I somehow he finds me on some

1307
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,920
other something that I didn't
have him on social media and

1308
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:08,399
says I have your woofer.
And I was like, what does this

1309
01:09:08,399 --> 01:09:10,560
mean?
I had someone coming in from

1310
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:14,399
Sweden, a young blonde girl
coming from Sweden and she

1311
01:09:14,399 --> 01:09:17,479
happened to be staying in the
apartment that he's staying in.

1312
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,399
And he starts talking to her and
she's like, I'm going to Wally's

1313
01:09:20,399 --> 01:09:21,600
farm.
He's like, that's where Lauren

1314
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,800
is.
And so then he messages me and

1315
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,279
he's like, I have your woofer
and I like called her and I'm

1316
01:09:26,279 --> 01:09:28,560
messaging her, but like she's
from Sweden.

1317
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,040
So we don't have, you know,
it's, I don't, I just sent a

1318
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,439
message and I was like, please
come straight to the farm.

1319
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:34,680
Like don't get a ride with that
guy.

1320
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,319
Then she shows up with this guy
and I was like, please don't

1321
01:09:38,319 --> 01:09:40,800
like ever.
Like block him on everything.

1322
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,200
He is weird.
Don't interact.

1323
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,479
And then all the time like the
island does.

1324
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,120
There's so much there and it's
huge.

1325
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,120
I would see him all the time
everywhere.

1326
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,720
I'd be on the beach in Waikiki,
which is an hour drive away, and

1327
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,400
he would be there like, I don't,
I never got a restraining order

1328
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,720
or anything, but I should have.
And he just ended up being

1329
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,360
everywhere.
I would see him all the time in

1330
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:06,280
my 6 months there.
And that was just one of the

1331
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:08,440
little weird things that
happened.

1332
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,040
Very strange.
Yeah.

1333
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:14,520
And then the owners, they seem
pretty normal.

1334
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:19,040
She was from Okinawa and he was
from Chicago.

1335
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:24,480
He was a veteran.
Seem like there was something

1336
01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:27,720
that happened there because he'd
be really nice, really, really

1337
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,600
friendly and you'd be talking to
him and then all of a sudden his

1338
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,200
eyes I swear they would just go
black and he would just start

1339
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:41,800
screaming at you like he'd be
gone working construction and I

1340
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,920
don't it was just like he was
demon possessed actually,

1341
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,280
because just his eyes would go
so black and everything would be

1342
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,720
perfectly fine and then
something would switch and he

1343
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:54,280
didn't like how you pulled some
of the weeds or you planted the

1344
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,480
wrong thing or whatever it was
and I'm just a 19 year old like

1345
01:10:57,480 --> 01:10:59,760
I don't really know that much.
I'm just here to help your farm.

1346
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:09,080
And he would just like flip out.
And his wife just was used to

1347
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,880
it, you know, And she kind of
apologized for him.

1348
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:16,160
But, and it was after a few
months, I'd already been living

1349
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:20,560
there for a few months and I had
met someone next door.

1350
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:23,720
So like when things got really
bad at the farm, I went to her

1351
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,320
farm and she would let me stay
over and we became really good

1352
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:27,560
friends.
And to this day, we're still

1353
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:31,240
really good friends.
And she was like she would walk

1354
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:35,360
around her farm in long flowy
dresses, like just picking

1355
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,640
little weeds and wearing
everything she wore was always

1356
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,400
beautiful.
She would never wear like shorts

1357
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,320
and AT shirt she was super
against that.

1358
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,160
She hated that I ever wore
shorts and AT shirt, I think she

1359
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,840
believed women should just wear
only Princess clothes.

1360
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,520
And she's still to this day I
see pictures of her and her kids

1361
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,720
and they all wear Princess
clothes and I love it so much.

1362
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:53,680
And she just was my little fairy
neighbor.

1363
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:58,160
And so I would like go over
there because again, I don't

1364
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,280
have money and I don't really
want to tell my parents that

1365
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:01,480
like this weird stuff's
happening.

1366
01:12:01,480 --> 01:12:03,120
So they're going to make me just
come home.

1367
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,880
And I didn't have anywhere else
to go.

1368
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,440
And so I just dealt with it for
a couple months.

1369
01:12:10,440 --> 01:12:14,120
But at one point he just came
home and ripped me apart

1370
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,600
verbally.
And his wife was kind of always

1371
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,080
a safe person and, and I took
her on a walk and I was like,

1372
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:22,440
look, like, I think I need to
leave.

1373
01:12:22,440 --> 01:12:24,400
Like this is a pretty bad
situation for me.

1374
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:29,800
And then she flipped out on
yeah, she ended up flipping out

1375
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:33,560
on me and I was like, OK, I, I
just literally went and grabbed

1376
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:35,280
my backpack and put everything
in it and walked next door.

1377
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,680
And I was like, I need to, I
need to stay here for a little

1378
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:38,920
bit because I don't know what to
do.

1379
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,040
And I.
And at this point, you're not

1380
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,000
like they're not even paying
you.

1381
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:45,480
I'm assuming you're just living
in the.

1382
01:12:45,480 --> 01:12:47,840
Town, I ended up getting $100 a
week.

1383
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:51,400
I was working 60 hours a week.
I would, I would just work all

1384
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,720
day long because I thought it
was fun to work other than the

1385
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,360
crazy situation.
And there was, there was like 12

1386
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:00,080
to 14 other people at any given
point on this farm.

1387
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,960
And I they're all from different
countries.

1388
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:04,200
So they didn't always speak
English.

1389
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:11,600
And there was lots of meet a lot
of soul searching people, which

1390
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:15,280
can be kind of strange people,
you know, And I suppose in a way

1391
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,520
that I was also one of those
searching people.

1392
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:22,920
And there was some really great
people who I've seen since I

1393
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:24,800
left the farm.
And there was some just very

1394
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,560
weird people who just like lay
in the field looking at the sky

1395
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:30,000
because they had just left some
crazy situation.

1396
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:31,840
And I don't never knew really
knew what it was, but they would

1397
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,720
just be on the farm, not really
doing anything.

1398
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:40,360
And yeah, so there was lots of
other people there, but I never

1399
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,680
really confided in anyone.
So I was supposed to be like

1400
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,600
managing the farm and and I
turned this farm around from

1401
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,040
bringing in 0 income, they're
just losing money.

1402
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,680
They're a hobby farm to getting
into schools and restaurants.

1403
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,240
And I had the school next door
wanted me to come and teach

1404
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:59,120
every week and CS as and I got
this farm making lots of money

1405
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,320
within.
I was only on this one for four

1406
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:07,200
months and and then as soon as I
left, everything went back to

1407
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:09,520
not bringing in any money.
It's like I was doing a really

1408
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:10,480
good job.
I wasn't making money.

1409
01:14:10,480 --> 01:14:13,000
I didn't have enough money to do
anything with, but I was like,

1410
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:16,760
I'll figure that out later.
This is, you know, I was like a

1411
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,880
year and then I'll figure I can
find a job or do something.

1412
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:21,680
I didn't really have a plan at
that point.

1413
01:14:23,480 --> 01:14:25,600
So I just moved in with my
neighbor and I stayed with her

1414
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:32,000
for a few for a month or so.
And we also had a lot of like

1415
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,120
military people that would come
to the farm because they were

1416
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:35,760
kind of bored.
And apparently you got island

1417
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,080
sickness when you're there too
much, which I don't think that I

1418
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:39,760
would have experienced.
But they would come to like work

1419
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:44,080
on the farm just to they're just
volunteer to do something.

1420
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,920
So I met a lot of a lot of
interesting people from all over

1421
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:48,520
the world.
That's a cool vibe.

1422
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:52,000
I actually have a dude on the
podcast in Door County and he

1423
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:58,320
has a farm that is solely
centered on veterans with PTSD

1424
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,640
and.
Do they come to the farmers

1425
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:05,040
market?
He may yes, he he very well.

1426
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,400
His name is Jake and it's
called.

1427
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,720
The Saturday 1 maybe?
Yeah, I, I think it seems like

1428
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,080
he would.
It's called Door County Farm for

1429
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:15,360
Vets.
And like there's a connection

1430
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:19,800
between those two things all the
way to he told, he told this

1431
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,120
cool story that I've told a lot
of times since then where he

1432
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:28,320
has, he started beekeeping.
And I guess there's like a

1433
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,720
connection.
He, he did it in his deer stand

1434
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:35,120
because there's a, a connection
of the frequency of bees buzzing

1435
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:39,200
in a hive that is restorative or
like helpful for people with

1436
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:42,040
PTSD.
So like there there's a thing

1437
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:46,600
and his whole farm is is aimed
at that is, is veterans who have

1438
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,920
some things to work through,
doing it through the lens of

1439
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:51,720
farming and connecting with
nature.

1440
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:55,000
So it's valuable to so many
people, but it's not surprising

1441
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,200
that a bunch of military folks
were coming through because

1442
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,880
like.
It is very, it is a good

1443
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,520
therapeutic escape from
something hard.

1444
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,520
And I would say every day, the
most I've ever journaled in my

1445
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:11,640
life was at that point and I
filled out a huge journal and

1446
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,960
every day something would happen
or I would feel like I learned

1447
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:20,000
something from nature.
Like something a lot happened

1448
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,800
and I ended up throwing away or
even burning that journal at

1449
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:27,680
some point.
I, I don't know, I went through

1450
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:29,840
a period where I was like, I
don't, I don't, I don't want

1451
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,240
that in my life.
Even though now I regret it

1452
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:36,120
because there was so much in
that journal that like, I don't

1453
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:40,480
know that I'll remember all the
crazy things that happened, but

1454
01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:42,880
I'm also just thankful that I'm
not that person because those

1455
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,120
days were like really hard.
There was a lot of just like,

1456
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:50,400
what is life kind of feeling
while being there, being a. 1920

1457
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,440
year old kid.
Yeah, I was like part of it.

1458
01:16:52,440 --> 01:16:54,520
I didn't know what I wanted to
do with my life and I didn't

1459
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,280
know who I was and I don't know
what I was searching for and I

1460
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,720
don't even knew.
I don't think that I knew that I

1461
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:03,360
was searching as hard as I was.
But I would say I'm an extremely

1462
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:07,080
different person now that I am.
Then towards the end of my

1463
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:08,840
journey, which I did not know
was going to be the end of my

1464
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,400
journey, while I was living with
my friend, I was like, I need to

1465
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,000
do something.
And I've been working some

1466
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,120
farmers market.
So I had a little bit of money.

1467
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:21,800
I bought a plane ticket to Kauai
and my brother and sister's dad

1468
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:23,840
was from Kauai and they had
property there.

1469
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,560
And so I wanted to go and see it
and I just needed a change of

1470
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:32,400
scenery.
So I took my backpack there and

1471
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:37,080
I started walking from the
airport and this guy picked me

1472
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:40,160
up.
He's from Texas, and he's there.

1473
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:42,760
Yeah.
I didn't have my thumb up.

1474
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,400
I just was walking.
I didn't know if I could get

1475
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,440
somewhere or not.
And I was like, maybe I'll find

1476
01:17:48,440 --> 01:17:51,120
a bus or, you know, I don't have
a ton of money, but I was like,

1477
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:55,600
I'll just figure it out.
And he picked me up and I just

1478
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,360
asked him to take me to this
beach because there was

1479
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,000
somewhere near that you could go
camping.

1480
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:04,600
And he picked me up and then he
ended up staying at the beach

1481
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:08,440
for a little bit.
He's from Texas and he's there

1482
01:18:08,440 --> 01:18:14,200
on a sobriety journey.
So he hangs out for a little

1483
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:15,040
bit.
And then he was like, I'm

1484
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,040
staying with this family.
There's a woman, there's kids.

1485
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:23,840
You can come and stay at the
house with us and and while you

1486
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:24,720
figure out what you're going to
do.

1487
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,880
So I go back to the house with
him and this woman is pissed

1488
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:29,240
that he brought a hitchhiker
home.

1489
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,280
And she is so mad because she
has kids.

1490
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:36,040
And I was like, yeah, I mean,
that makes sense.

1491
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:40,120
I thought, I thought you were
like, he said you were cool with

1492
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:41,840
this.
She was like, you can stay here

1493
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:46,280
for one night.
And it ended up being a mile

1494
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:48,800
away from the house that my
brother and sister had grown up

1495
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,880
in.
And just like, super randomly.

1496
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:56,200
So then the next day we go and
see that house and there's these

1497
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:59,280
super cool hippie people there
that live there.

1498
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:00,840
And there's bungalows.
And it's the most beautiful

1499
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:04,360
property I've ever seen.
But that was a very traumatic

1500
01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:09,480
life for my mother in that time
frame that I will not go into.

1501
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,480
But it was cool nonetheless to
see.

1502
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:16,160
I felt like I just healed the
part of me to be there and see

1503
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,960
it.
And I had yet to go through all

1504
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,640
my crazy experiences.
So I thought all these things

1505
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:24,960
would help me to not make those
same life mistakes that my

1506
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:26,840
parents made, which didn't end
up happening.

1507
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:31,520
And and then he was going to be
moving into an apartment.

1508
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:36,920
So he said, I'll let you use my
truck while I go to work if you

1509
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:38,480
help move things.
So I did that.

1510
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:43,120
He was moving in with this other
girl and they were like, you can

1511
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:47,640
stay with us for a couple weeks.
And they told me that I could

1512
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,240
stay with them if I went and got
food stamps because then I could

1513
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:55,960
buy them food.
And I was like, OK, because they

1514
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:57,840
said you can just go apply for
food stamps.

1515
01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:59,000
And I didn't know that that was
a thing.

1516
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,520
Like it was a 19 year old girl
who was choosing not to work,

1517
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,280
like no disability.
And they just gave me food

1518
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,440
stamps, which is a little bit
messed up.

1519
01:20:07,440 --> 01:20:09,160
Like there's no reason why they
would give me food stamps, but

1520
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,440
they did.
But I don't know like that there

1521
01:20:11,440 --> 01:20:12,760
was anything wrong with doing
that.

1522
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:16,280
And.
Is this 1 + 1 = 2 type scenario?

1523
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:17,680
Yeah.
Like you can get food stamps,

1524
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:18,840
so.
I have a place to live.

1525
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:19,680
Here you go.
Yeah.

1526
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:20,800
Yeah.
So I did that.

1527
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:23,400
My dad was so mad when he found
out that I got the food stamps.

1528
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,680
He's like, you were a fully
capable and able human being.

1529
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:29,640
Like you need to not take
advantage of things like that.

1530
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:31,720
I was like, oh, I didn't.
I don't know.

1531
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,160
I just didn't think at the
moment, didn't think that there

1532
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:36,240
was anything wrong with it.
And I'm like, you should make it

1533
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,400
a little bit harder to get food
stamps because I was perfectly

1534
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:39,600
able and capable of having a
job.

1535
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,400
And I just didn't want one
because I wanted to go and do

1536
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:45,000
what I wanted to do.
That's not right.

1537
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,000
And so I was staying with these
people for two weeks.

1538
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:52,000
This girl had some friends that
were like had some drug issues

1539
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,240
and she might have had some drug
issues and the household was a

1540
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:56,680
little bit crazy, but I just
took my days and went and did

1541
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,720
things and helped them move and
just kind of was, again, didn't

1542
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,680
know what I was doing.
Then one night they got into a

1543
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:04,960
huge argument and they're not
dating or anything.

1544
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:07,040
They're just two random people
that decided to live together

1545
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,520
and they got into a huge
argument because her friend who

1546
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:18,240
was like super drug addict,
meth, all the things, he

1547
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,480
wouldn't let that person come
and stay with us.

1548
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:24,400
And she was mad because she was
letting me stay with them.

1549
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,680
And although we had become like
really good friends, like we

1550
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:28,960
were hanging out and doing
things and but she was mad that

1551
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,480
I was there then.
And so she kicked me out of the

1552
01:21:31,480 --> 01:21:36,040
house and it's midnight and I'm
19 and they like live in Kauai.

1553
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,880
And there's like, it's not
really like Natri around Kauai.

1554
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:41,560
And then right outside of where
they live is where all the

1555
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,960
homeless people have to live.
And they've got like a homeless

1556
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:50,000
people shelter that's just like
blocked off so people can't see

1557
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,120
all the homeless people.
But it's not like a building

1558
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:55,320
where someone manages it.
And then the rest of the people

1559
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:57,840
just kind of congregate around
these other buildings.

1560
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:01,280
So I grabbed my backpack and my
pillow pet and I'm walking

1561
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,960
around and I met this guy named.
Wild.

1562
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,480
I think it was Hey Zeus.
I'm pretty sure This is why I

1563
01:22:07,480 --> 01:22:09,400
need my journal because I'm
like, I feel like that would

1564
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:14,160
have been the hey Zeus because
he was Jesus and he's got a

1565
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:15,720
shopping cart with like all of
his things.

1566
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:20,400
And I just start talking to him
and it's midnight and he was

1567
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:22,760
like, here, I'll just like set
up a little space for you.

1568
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,920
So he like puts up a tarp.
So I like have my own little

1569
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:32,520
private homeless person space
and and I was going to spend the

1570
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,160
night there and I just like was
leaning over on my backpack with

1571
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:39,680
my pillow and I was like, this
is not a good situation.

1572
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,360
I'm calling my parents in the
morning, I'm going home.

1573
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:46,320
I'm done with this.
And so she ends up coming and

1574
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,840
finding me and apologizing and
asked me to come back.

1575
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:50,960
And I was like, I don't think I
can like be around you guys

1576
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:52,160
anymore.
You're pretty crazy.

1577
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,560
Still, that night, she did that.
This night, Yep.

1578
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:59,640
And, and then all of a sudden we
hear someone screaming like they

1579
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:05,560
are getting beat to death.
And I'm so freaked out.

1580
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:09,080
My phone is off for some reason.
At this point I don't know if I

1581
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:12,360
was trying to conserve battery
or what, but my phone's not on.

1582
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,160
And we had walked over to a
different spot.

1583
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,240
We were like sitting at a bus
station even though no bus was

1584
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:19,000
coming.
And that's when the screening

1585
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:22,600
started.
And so I'm like getting my phone

1586
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:25,920
out and I'm like, Oh my God,
like, I don't, you know, I don't

1587
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:29,320
know what to do.
And the homeless people, there's

1588
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,720
like people standing outside of
the homeless shelter and they

1589
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,000
like see that we're getting our
phone out and hearing that we're

1590
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,320
going to call the cops.
So they like start coming

1591
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,160
towards us and I'm on the phone
with the cops.

1592
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,720
And I was like, someone's
getting beat to death.

1593
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:45,600
And these like homeless people
are coming over here and they're

1594
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:52,520
going to kill us too.
And so the cops, it's Kawhi is

1595
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,120
really tiny.
So they like show up and they're

1596
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:58,120
like, what are you doing here?
Why are you out here?

1597
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:00,040
And I was like, I and I'm still
like holding.

1598
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:04,440
Nine with your pillow pet.
Yeah, And I was like, I don't

1599
01:24:04,440 --> 01:24:06,160
know, like I'm staying with
these people and they kicked me

1600
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:08,640
out.
And we never ended up knowing

1601
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:09,840
exactly what happened to this
person.

1602
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:11,160
But someone got this girl
pregnant.

1603
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:14,040
And so then they were like
beating him up because he, like,

1604
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,000
left her something.
And it was just all this

1605
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:21,080
homeless people drama and and
then I think I did end up going

1606
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:22,760
and staying with that girl that
night, but like the police

1607
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:24,040
didn't escort his home or
anything.

1608
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:26,720
So we like walked around really
far to make sure no homeless

1609
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:31,560
people knew where we were.
And then the next day, this guy

1610
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:34,920
that I was dating on the other
island only for like a couple

1611
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:38,440
weeks, he woke up after having a
dream that I was in trouble,

1612
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,680
convinced that he needs to fly
to Kauai even though he has zero

1613
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,800
money to help save me.
And he was.

1614
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,000
Because of a dream.
Yeah, yeah.

1615
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:49,760
When something bad actually did
happen.

1616
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:53,080
That night, yeah.
So my friend gave him the the

1617
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,120
friend that I was staying with
gave him the money to fly to

1618
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:56,960
Kauai, but like he didn't even
have money to get back.

1619
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:58,840
So I had to pay for him to get
back after that.

1620
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:02,520
And it was weird that he had the
dream, but he was also crazy.

1621
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:05,920
This is every day was.
On the plane because of the

1622
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:07,640
dream.
That's crazy.

1623
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:09,520
Yeah.
And then I also call my parents

1624
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:11,800
and I was like, I need you to
get me home.

1625
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:13,720
And the cheapest plane ticket
was in two weeks and it was

1626
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,400
$600.00 that it was going to be
like $1000 to get home.

1627
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:20,560
And so they buy me a plane
ticket in two weeks and I spend

1628
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,680
2 more days on the island.
But I go to the other side of

1629
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:29,160
the island and I'm now with this
guy and we're hitch hiking.

1630
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:31,200
The guy who flew there to save
you?

1631
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,840
And then this, this man picks us
up.

1632
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:36,000
We don't know that he's
homeless.

1633
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:37,960
You can tell he like has a lot
of stuff in his car.

1634
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:40,720
He goes snorkeling and then he
like picks up all the valuables

1635
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:42,560
and sells it like wedding rings
and Ray Bans.

1636
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:46,560
And so he goes and snorkels and
he collects all the stuff and

1637
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:51,360
then he sells it and.
It's a fine line between

1638
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,800
homeless and drifter.
Yeah, yeah.

1639
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:55,440
So we weren't sure at this
point.

1640
01:25:55,680 --> 01:26:00,000
And he said I'm working at this
house and we can stay there.

1641
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,640
So like we go to this house and
then middle of the night, like

1642
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:04,080
go to use the bathroom and turn
the lights on.

1643
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:05,800
He's like turn the lights off.
Like we're not allowed to be

1644
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:07,640
here.
I was like, we're breaking an

1645
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:11,040
entry right now in this building
that he's doing construction on

1646
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,120
that we're not legally.
And it's like a really nice

1647
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:14,560
house.
Like we're not even allowed to

1648
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:18,920
be here right now.
And so I was like OK, I need to

1649
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:24,400
just get back to the other
island and not be here anymore

1650
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,120
because all of this is just
messed up and I'm getting into

1651
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,320
too much trouble and something
really bad eventually is going

1652
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:31,920
to happen.
Well, while I'm on the other

1653
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:35,800
island, my friend who I was
living with has a spiritual

1654
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,720
awakening and decides that in
her mom's.

1655
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:40,000
The friend that had kicked you
out?

1656
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,920
No, my friend that I was living
with after I left the weird

1657
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:48,880
farm, OK, while I'm on Kauai and
she's on Oahu, living in her

1658
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:51,320
home, her mom's home and her
mom's not there.

1659
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,720
She has a spiritual awakening
that her mom has all these

1660
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:56,880
things in her home.
They're idols, all these

1661
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,520
beautiful statues and really
expensive stuff and that they're

1662
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:03,360
idols against God.
So she takes them all while I'm

1663
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,520
gone and chucks them all off the
balcony and destroys the house.

1664
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:10,680
And Natasha, I love you if you
watch this, but we know that was

1665
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,840
a rough time.
So she gets kicked out of her

1666
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:15,200
house.
So I don't have anywhere to come

1667
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:19,320
back to because she also can't
be there and I don't know anyone

1668
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:24,480
else to stay with.
And so we ended up me and her in

1669
01:27:24,480 --> 01:27:28,840
the sky and then her boyfriend
also end up staying on the floor

1670
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:30,720
of this family who've got a
bunch of kids.

1671
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:34,800
And it's like the rooms like
this big and we're just all on

1672
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,000
their floor living at this house
for two weeks because I didn't

1673
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,160
have anywhere else to go and I
couldn't fly home for two more

1674
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:42,600
weeks.
And that's the that's the short

1675
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:45,400
of the my 6 month journey in
Hawaii that I thought was going

1676
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,480
to be a really long journey.
And then just too much happened

1677
01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:51,040
and I had to come home.
What an absolute trip.

1678
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:54,200
And that's all that's all like
at that time.

1679
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:56,880
Did you know about the rat lung
disease?

1680
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:58,840
No, that was my first time in
Hawaii.

1681
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:01,680
That was the.
Because then, so I went from

1682
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:10,120
Michigan to Colorado to Hawaii,
back to Michigan and then back

1683
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,360
to Hawaii.
And that time I was on a

1684
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:16,080
different island.
And when I got to that island,

1685
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,760
she was actually now living on
this other island that I was on.

1686
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:22,000
So then we were still friends
living there and getting to do

1687
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:26,440
things together.
And yeah, I had just found this

1688
01:28:26,440 --> 01:28:29,840
woman that I stayed with my
second time there when I

1689
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,400
contracted it.
And she had a farm and I needed

1690
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:34,400
to make some more money because
I was going on a mission trip.

1691
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:39,160
And she had she was mega
millionaire, had tons of

1692
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:41,680
properties all over the country
and Hawaii, like bunch of

1693
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:43,600
properties in Hawaii.
And I was staying at this

1694
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:48,200
mansion and in her guest house.
And we ended up becoming she was

1695
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:50,400
like 75.
We would sleep in bed together

1696
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:53,040
when she had people in her guest
house because we were just best

1697
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:57,040
friends then.
And she paid me so much money to

1698
01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:59,480
just live there and help her
take care of things and watch

1699
01:28:59,480 --> 01:29:01,680
someone's dog for a few weeks
before I went to this missionary

1700
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:02,800
thing.
Then on the weekends, I'd go

1701
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:08,320
work for her.
And so Tina, it was her name she

1702
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:09,880
became.
We became really good friends.

1703
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:13,400
But that's also probably the
property that I contracted the

1704
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,680
illness at.
Yeah.

1705
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:21,680
Life's roller coaster.
Yeah, what an absolute trip of

1706
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:23,080
the journey.
Yeah.

1707
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:28,920
Like, I don't know, there's a,
you know, at that age, there's a

1708
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:32,960
certain free willingness about
you, like freewheeling, wanting

1709
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:38,120
to, especially being from small
town UP like you, you want to

1710
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:41,160
experience these things.
And I traveled a lot growing up

1711
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,240
in the state.
It's like we went out to

1712
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:47,080
California and Wyoming and
everywhere and we would take our

1713
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:49,880
4 Wheelers and we would go and
have all these adventures and

1714
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:54,240
Death Valley and Devil's Tower
and go rock climbing like we did

1715
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:56,720
a lot of things.
So it's not like I was deprived

1716
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:59,440
of.
But you couldn't find your path

1717
01:29:59,440 --> 01:30:01,960
is what ultimately we all tried
to do right?

1718
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:05,280
We try to find our our journey
along the way and stuff like all

1719
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:08,560
those experience mold us right.
Like I have a bunch of crazy

1720
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:11,600
stories too that molded me into
the person that I am today.

1721
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,840
But now, like when you look back
especially, you're going to have

1722
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:17,720
a baby like.
She does not need to do any of

1723
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:20,680
that would be.
You look back on it and think

1724
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:23,600
about how crazy it was, like the
decisions.

1725
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:28,120
And my dad, anytime we would go
on a trip, we'd never know he'd

1726
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:31,080
be like, I need to leave town,
like we're going tomorrow, pack

1727
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:33,480
up the motorhome kind of thing,
like go get your school work.

1728
01:30:33,480 --> 01:30:37,480
Not like, you know, six months
in advance like a normal family.

1729
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:41,400
And that like plans things.
And to this day, he'll be like,

1730
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:43,760
I'm stressed out.
I'm going to Death Valley.

1731
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:45,480
Like right now he's in Nevada.
He's on his way back.

1732
01:30:45,480 --> 01:30:47,000
He's like, I don't know if I'll
be there for the baby shower

1733
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:52,360
because I got to go to Nevada
because he needs to go just

1734
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:57,400
because he needs to go.
So I was like, I do feel like

1735
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:00,360
through all the experiences that
I had, I've been able to chill

1736
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:02,600
out.
I do know that I still have that

1737
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:04,840
sense of wanting to, like,
escape.

1738
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:08,240
You know, my business partner
talks a lot about like, a

1739
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,000
vacation shouldn't be an escape
from your life.

1740
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,600
If you love your life, then a
vacation's just a cool, another

1741
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:18,560
part of life, you know, And
yeah, I really don't want.

1742
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,320
And my husband's like the exact
opposite.

1743
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,720
He doesn't need to do anything.
Like, he loves being home.

1744
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:25,680
He wants to go golf and hang out
with his friends and super

1745
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:30,760
chill, super never done like
anything like that.

1746
01:31:31,440 --> 01:31:33,640
And I need like a grounding
person like that.

1747
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:35,480
And I love that about him
because he doesn't, you know,

1748
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:37,960
stress me out.
Sometimes I wish maybe he wanted

1749
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:42,520
to do more, but then I remember
I don't want that at all.

1750
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:46,280
Like I want someone who is
content and happy and positive

1751
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:49,160
with just a simple life.
But he might, he'll come along

1752
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:50,840
with me with some of the crazy
things.

1753
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:54,400
But also, like, we went to Saint
Lucia for the honeymoon and

1754
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:58,240
there was like a ropes course
and I was 25 weeks pregnant or

1755
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:00,320
something.
And I like, really wanted to do

1756
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:03,720
it.
He was like, no, like, I would

1757
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:06,240
continue to make bad decisions
over and over again.

1758
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:09,640
So I needed someone that was a
little more sane in the brain to

1759
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:13,880
help me out.
Life's balance is good like

1760
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:16,120
that.
Yeah, my wife is that for me,

1761
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,000
too.
My wife is a very comfortable

1762
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:19,920
homebody.
She needs to restore it.

1763
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:25,880
Her restorative time is like in
her domain, you know, like it's

1764
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,520
at home.
Like when when it's a Mama day,

1765
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:30,960
like it doesn't have to be
anything extravagant.

1766
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:33,280
It's me and Riv go play for the
day.

1767
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:35,920
And she can like rejuvenate that
way.

1768
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:40,360
And I'm much more cut from your
cloth or your dad's cloth.

1769
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:42,240
Sometimes I'll make some pretty
impulsive decisions.

1770
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:47,480
Actually, a couple months ago I
went to AI went to a concert in

1771
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:51,520
Cincinnati.
It was and it was on a Friday

1772
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:53,200
and it was like during the
semester.

1773
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,920
So I had like classes and stuff,
but I just like it was something

1774
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:58,760
I felt like doing.
You know, it was something I was

1775
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:02,280
called to and like I like she
looked at me like I had Five

1776
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:05,600
Eyes, like you're you're what
when and I was just like, I'll

1777
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:08,080
just sleep in the car, like
it'll be fine.

1778
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:12,320
And but it's, it's, it's much
different and that's you

1779
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:14,040
ultimately got to where I was
going to get to with that.

1780
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:17,960
Like it's much different making
those decisions as you age,

1781
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:24,200
develop and recognize to circle
back into the first point, just

1782
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:28,440
like how wild some of those
decisions actually are terrifies

1783
01:33:28,440 --> 01:33:33,200
me for my son.
Dude, what are you going to do

1784
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:36,320
and decision that, you know, you
mentioned a couple times in your

1785
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:38,800
stories about how you didn't
want to call home because like

1786
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:42,040
then it was going to be the
logical decision to have

1787
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:44,960
pressure to, OK, let's come home
centralized and figure this out.

1788
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:47,960
That terrifies me because
absolutely.

1789
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:51,200
I'm trying to build an
environment where that is not

1790
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:54,120
the case.
It's like, call, yeah, it'll

1791
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:56,760
still be your path, but I'll
walk it with you.

1792
01:33:56,920 --> 01:34:00,800
You know, let's walk this
together as opposed to like, not

1793
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:02,880
calling that number right now.
I'm going to figure this out

1794
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:04,560
myself.
Yeah, yeah.

1795
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:08,480
I want to, in whatever way be
someone that my daughter can

1796
01:34:08,480 --> 01:34:10,120
confide in in case she is like
me.

1797
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:15,880
And that will be very scary, but
I want her, you know, to know

1798
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:19,920
that I'm someone who's going to
cheer on to some of the things,

1799
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:21,960
but also give her some of the
logic.

1800
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:25,200
And I haven't really like
figured that out, which is a

1801
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:29,200
little bit scary on like I the
restaurant, you know, that was,

1802
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:33,200
I was super young and that was
not necessarily impulsive, but

1803
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:34,840
kind of impulsive.
And there's been a lot of

1804
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:37,080
decisions that I made that were
bad decisions.

1805
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:40,280
But also if I didn't just make
those crazy decisions, I

1806
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,200
wouldn't be here and people
wouldn't have the pharmacy.

1807
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:44,760
And maybe I made some bad
business decisions in the sense

1808
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:47,200
of I don't really know.
Because I thought I was going to

1809
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,680
have different support going
into this because I was married

1810
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:51,720
to someone who did business
stuff before.

1811
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:55,560
So I went into it making a lot
of mistakes.

1812
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:58,720
But I'm like, I've 0 regrets
even though every day it's

1813
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:03,840
really hard, like so hard.
And I look forward to a day when

1814
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:07,600
it's not this hard.
If I wouldn't have made all

1815
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:11,640
these crazy decisions to get the
restaurant going and to grow

1816
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:14,360
really quickly.
And we do a lot at the

1817
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:16,400
restaurants that usually get
distracted because I want to do

1818
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:19,200
all these new things.
People wouldn't have all that

1819
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:22,000
they have from us, the food and
the education and the knowledge.

1820
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:24,840
And last year I spoke in front
of 500 people for a Parkinson's

1821
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:28,080
event and I was pretty hard on
them, so I didn't get invited.

1822
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:30,400
That's why I assume I didn't get
invited back this year because

1823
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:32,880
they fed them Donuts and juice
for breakfast.

1824
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:35,480
At the Parkinson's.
And I called them out on that.

1825
01:35:35,480 --> 01:35:38,880
I was like, I got up on stage.
I was like this is what's wrong.

1826
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:42,600
Yeah, well, a lot of the stuff
that's come out between gut

1827
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,200
health and Parkinson's is wild.
I had another dude who's local

1828
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:48,200
to Green Bay on the podcast
about that former.

1829
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:52,520
What was he?
He's a medical doctor.

1830
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:56,520
I can't remember if he was like
a General practitioner or a

1831
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:59,440
surgeon.
I think the other doctor was a

1832
01:35:59,440 --> 01:36:01,440
surgeon.
Either way, he was traditional

1833
01:36:01,440 --> 01:36:06,880
medicine in the hospital
environment and now he dedicated

1834
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:10,760
his post retirement life to the
connection between gut health

1835
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:13,160
and Parkinson's disease.
Super cool dude.

1836
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:16,800
So rightful.
So rightfully so for calling

1837
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:18,680
them out.
I had to, I was like, I have the

1838
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:21,480
opportunity to do to essentially
change people's lives.

1839
01:36:21,480 --> 01:36:25,560
And I had a long line of people
after that and that I got

1840
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:27,560
invited on the podcast and all
sorts of things.

1841
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:29,520
And I was like, it doesn't
matter if I don't get invited

1842
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:32,960
back because someone needed to
say it and you guys need to

1843
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:34,840
knock it off and you need to be
held accountable.

1844
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:39,560
You know, like charge an extra
$5 for this conference and then

1845
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:41,560
I could have catered it.
You know, like you could have

1846
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:44,360
had something better than Donuts
and juice for these people to

1847
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:45,600
survive on throughout the the
whole day.

1848
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:47,360
That's crazy.
Absolutely.

1849
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:50,240
Yeah, that's a perfect way to
circle in our conversation.

1850
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:54,520
I'm assuming after three years
that you've had some of your

1851
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:58,200
repeat business come in and tell
you about their life changing

1852
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:02,360
the the how their difference in
eating changed their life for

1853
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:03,440
the possible.
Is that the case?

1854
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:09,200
Yeah, well, I would say a lot of
my people were, it wasn't

1855
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:13,080
necessarily a change other than
I've different groups of people

1856
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:14,200
that attend different parts of
it.

1857
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:17,120
So the people that just eat at
the restaurant, I would say I've

1858
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:20,000
not gotten a lot of stories that
their diet changed is the fact

1859
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,040
that they haven't been able to
eat out in years.

1860
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:24,920
And this gave them a place to be
able to come and socialize and

1861
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:28,120
be have some convenience and
bring their children and feel

1862
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:30,160
safe and be able to have a
restaurant experience again

1863
01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:33,840
after not going to restaurants
for many, many years where

1864
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:35,200
they've already made that life
change.

1865
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:40,720
The people that have made their
life change census opening were

1866
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:43,080
the people I used to do a lot of
meal prep classes.

1867
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:47,280
So like on a Sunday, you pay
$50, you come in and I've got 12

1868
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:49,240
people there and you make all
your food for the week.

1869
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:52,440
I give you the recipes, I teach
you why you're using this salt

1870
01:37:52,440 --> 01:37:54,120
and why you have to make the
switch over to it, why you're

1871
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:56,560
using this oil and all the
things.

1872
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,240
So I would say that the people
that I educate are more the

1873
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:03,240
people that have made than the
life change and told me about

1874
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:08,640
it.
We have one guy and he comes in

1875
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:12,920
almost every day, every other
day and it must just be his work

1876
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:15,000
break.
None of us have ever talked to

1877
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:17,840
him other than and for three
years like since we've been

1878
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:21,800
open, he's supported us and all
of our like mistakes and and

1879
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:26,200
menu changes and everything.
And one time I asked him what do

1880
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:27,120
you do?
What did you do?

1881
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:29,280
Like before we open and he's
like, I just ate fast food every

1882
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:32,040
day and he just like cold Turkey
gave it up and now we see him

1883
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:33,920
every day.
He doesn't talk to any of us and

1884
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:37,600
we never, I want to talk to him,
but I don't want to scare him

1885
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:40,400
away because I've seen Tik toks
about or if you talk to your

1886
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:42,440
customer too much and then
they're like, don't want to come

1887
01:38:42,440 --> 01:38:44,280
in there.
So I was like, we don't want to

1888
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:46,320
talk to him because we don't
want to scare him away.

1889
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:49,040
Core part of our business.
But he just went straight from

1890
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:51,080
fast food to our restaurant and
that was it.

1891
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:53,440
Never look back.
That has to be life.

1892
01:38:53,440 --> 01:38:57,640
All it's so I know it has to be,
but I'll never know because

1893
01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:01,960
unless he watches this and he'll
know who he is because that's

1894
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:04,720
amazing.
And we have a ton of regulars.

1895
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:09,920
And so yeah, I'd say the biggest
thing is just giving people

1896
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:12,720
somewhere to go.
People going through cancer

1897
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:15,160
treatment.
We have a lot of them and they

1898
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:17,520
might be on their own or people
want to offer to make them

1899
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:20,080
meals, but like they need to be
on a keto diet.

1900
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:23,240
And so people can't they don't
know how to cook for them and

1901
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:25,120
they might have all these food
allergies and everything.

1902
01:39:25,440 --> 01:39:28,240
And so we do have a lot of
people that come through with

1903
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:32,040
needing cancer food help, which
is great because I know that

1904
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:36,760
when I was sick, it was really
hard to eat healthy and it's

1905
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:39,280
hard to just do anything.
And when you have cancer, like

1906
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:41,880
you don't really need more
stress and cooking can be

1907
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:45,120
stressful and hard.
And if life goes on, then you

1908
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:47,760
need that kind of support.
So yeah.

1909
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:52,880
And I ether three times a day
and aside from, you know, doing

1910
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:55,560
the Wellness way stuff, getting
out of a really stressful

1911
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:59,400
situation, working on that, I
went to a yoga retreat in

1912
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:02,240
Mexico.
And that also, a lot of my

1913
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:04,960
health issues changed after that
because I let go of so much

1914
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:09,120
emotion.
And then eating at my restaurant

1915
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:10,720
three times a day, I've never
eaten so perfectly.

1916
01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:13,400
I have no excuse to go and eat
something bad because I have

1917
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:15,720
access to it.
And obviously I don't.

1918
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:18,480
I don't take it for free.
I still pay for it, but I take a

1919
01:40:18,480 --> 01:40:21,200
nice discount.
So it's just as cheap basically

1920
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:23,000
as going to the store and buying
all the groceries.

1921
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:24,120
And I don't have time to do
that.

1922
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:29,640
So yeah, I know that I'm feel
good from eating what I eat

1923
01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:31,160
every single day from my
restaurant.

1924
01:40:31,440 --> 01:40:33,080
I'm envious.
I would come like take out the

1925
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:34,680
garbages every day for that
deal.

1926
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:36,720
Like you got some work to do,
Let me know.

1927
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:39,120
I got some dollars.
I know my employees eat their a

1928
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:42,000
lot too because I'm like, wait,
if when you we the discount that

1929
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:46,360
we get is basically it the same
cost as the food, the groceries.

1930
01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:49,920
So then like you can't go home
and make the same thing.

1931
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:51,880
So I'm like, if I didn't work at
my restaurant, I would work at

1932
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:53,840
my restaurant because I couldn't
afford to eat at my restaurant

1933
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:56,560
as much as I want to.
So I do have people that are

1934
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:59,480
always like, do you have like 4
hours a week that I can work to

1935
01:40:59,480 --> 01:41:00,920
get the discount?
And I'm like no.

1936
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:03,680
No, no, we're going to need you
for 30.

1937
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:06,760
Yeah.
That's fantastic.

1938
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:08,640
We'll keep up the good work.
It's awesome.

1939
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:14,400
I love and more access to things
like you do that we can get in

1940
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:17,840
northeast Wisconsin and Green
Bay and Wisconsin and really to

1941
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:21,880
anybody is for the better.
So absolutely.

1942
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:24,280
And the two I know that we're
wrapping up, but the two big

1943
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:27,560
things for me is giving people
access because they're going to

1944
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:31,560
go with A7 Brew just open next
to us and it's got the worst

1945
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:34,480
ingredients in the world, the
fully cancerous ingredients.

1946
01:41:34,480 --> 01:41:37,160
And the lines are across.
You know, I know that they're

1947
01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:40,160
not taking my customers because
my customers hopefully are not.

1948
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:43,560
Hopefully they know enough to
not go there often at least.

1949
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:49,240
And we want to just give them
quick access to food.

1950
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:51,800
But then the other thing is I've
always gone with all my

1951
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:53,840
teaching.
If you give a man a fish, he'll

1952
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:55,600
eat for a day.
But if you teach a man to fish,

1953
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:58,680
he'll eat for a lifetime.
And there's so much information

1954
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:02,200
out there.
All I want to teach people is

1955
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:06,320
like how to cook simple Whole
Foods, and a lot of people don't

1956
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:10,160
know how to cook basic foods.
So if you can learn that, you'll

1957
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:12,880
be set up a lot better.
Even if you can eat a few more

1958
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:14,920
of your meals at home, you're
going to be set up better.

1959
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:18,720
Salmon and some really good like
organic seasonings is delicious

1960
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:22,160
and it doesn't get old.
I don't like salmon.

1961
01:42:22,440 --> 01:42:23,480
You don't.
You don't like salmon?

1962
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:26,040
Unfortunately, I know it's so
good for you.

1963
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:31,000
I'm like a beef girl.
I want a lot of rib eyes.

1964
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:34,560
Yeah, a lot of red meat.
Except for during pregnancy.

1965
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:36,440
I hate red meat.
Which is weird because all I

1966
01:42:36,440 --> 01:42:38,720
used to eat is red meat, like 3
* a day.

1967
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:41,600
Fascinating.
That's completely flip flop for

1968
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:43,120
my wife.
All she craved was steak the

1969
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:45,240
whole time.
Yeah, I had like, too much iron,

1970
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:48,280
so I just stopped eating red
meat and now I just eat like

1971
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:52,680
chicken and rice and veggies and
potatoes and keep it simple.

1972
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:55,360
Nice.
Yeah, and that's the best part

1973
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:58,080
about it.
Perfect way to end like healthy

1974
01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:01,080
food generally is keep it
simple, yes, Yeah.

1975
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:02,240
That's the best way to go about
it.

1976
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:05,440
It's more affordable, it's less
stressful, and it's better for

1977
01:43:05,440 --> 01:43:07,240
you.
Our restaurant isn't complex.

1978
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:09,320
People want all these other
things, which I've tried, but

1979
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:12,600
just keep it simple and easy for
yourself at home.

1980
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:15,160
Make some homemade dressings.
That's really easy.

1981
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:18,840
You know, just you don't need to
eat all the Super foods and all

1982
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:21,000
the crazy things.
I feel better now just eating

1983
01:43:21,440 --> 01:43:25,320
meat and potatoes, not canned
vegetables, real vegetables and

1984
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sea salt healthy fats than I did
when I was all I was eating was

1985
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:33,200
kalin quinoa and goji berries.
And you know, like simple is

1986
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:36,920
better. 100% Yeah.
Well, good luck with pregnancy.

1987
01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:38,520
Thank you.
Good luck with the pharmacy.

1988
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:40,720
Good luck with your coaching.
Just keep doing you.

1989
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:41,880
You're doing awesome.
Thank you.