Nov. 6, 2023

Jordan Dietsche- Pro Wrestling, Comedy, and Career - Ep. #6

Show Notes
Transcript

Jordan Dietsche is a professional wrestler (born-again), Dad, marketer, and recreational comic always searching for a laugh. With his quick wit and extroversion, it is easy to see why rumbling around a ring to entertain crowds came natural to him. In this episode, Jordan and Brad talk about his career as a pro wrestler with Seinfeldian quips mixed in along the way.

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Do you have on dark sunglasses?
Does he?

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I feel like that's like for all
the crazy ass like podcasts

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where they just say stupid stuff
just to get clicks.

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Like they always wear dark
sunglasses.

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I feel like that's his bod.
It is like a thing, yeah.

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It's like, I'm just saying, you
know, maybe we didn't get on the

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moon.
I'm just saying, just a thought.

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Like, that's every stupid
podcast.

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Did you ever did?
You know, I saw just the other

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day he's on he was on Road Rules
way back in the day.

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You ever see any of those clips?
Yeah, I've seen Rd.

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Rules.
Yeah.

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Did you ever see the one with
him?

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Oh, the Obama's on it.
He was on it.

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I I haven't, but I was shocked
to find out He's like, what, in

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his 40s or 50s?
He's very old.

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He's not in his 30s.
He's very old really.

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He's like. 49 He's almost. 50 I
think so.

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Yeah, I guess that probably
stands true.

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So thinking about Rd. rules that
happened in like the what 90s

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that was. 90s was Rd.
Rules and he was probably about

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20 at that time.
Yeah, yeah, he he is he he's

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pretty old.
He looks very young.

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I think it's because he tans so
much and he probably like covers

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up his like the bags under his
eyes with those giant, because

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he wears like dark giant
aviators.

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He always covers up himself with
his hat.

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Yeah, you know what I mean?
Is that what you're doing now?

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No, I'm having a weird hair day.
I had a haircut like 5 weeks

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ago.
That didn't.

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It didn't take.
This is my George Costanza.

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I got done telling her higher
and higher and she was just

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like, yeah, how's this?
And I was like, you didn't do

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anything.
So I'm having a weird hair day.

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I ran like 2 1/2 miles today and
then I showered and it's like it

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just hasn't stuck somewhere in a
cap.

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All right, this.
Is the third cap I tried on

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before I left the house too.
Oh yeah.

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Deep in the rotation.
Deep into the bullpen, what was

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the deciding factor?
I was running out of time and I

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was bothering my wife.
OK.

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It's going to be this one.
Yeah.

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I think it was a good choice.
It's all right.

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Camouflage Lambo from Rooted,
Wisconsin.

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And this?
Is my dad's cap actually too?

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him and I did.
We do cap trades.

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We do cap trades.
Yeah, we're really.

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Caps.
Yeah, OK.

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Fascinating.
How did that?

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How did that come about?
It's just like he's like, I like

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that cap and I'm like, I like
that one.

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So we just trade caps and every
couple years we just rotate them

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back.
Wow.

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So it's a lengthy endeavor.
Yeah, well he's he's kind of

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invested at this point since
1987.

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So.
So what, what was the first cap

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trade?
Do you remember the cap and who

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initiated?
It it was this one and I had a

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hat that says, says Beer Ski.
And he's like, ah, that's a cool

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cap and I was like, want me to
buy you one?

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He's like, no, I want that one.
I was like, OK, well then I want

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that one and since then it's
been like Packer caps or.

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He has really old cats from the
90s that are just awesome that

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you can't find anywhere.
Cheese maker caps, all kinds of

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stuff.
What one did you get back from

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the Beersky?
This one, this one was the that

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was the first cap trade.
Yeah, this is the OK.

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Has there been there, has there
been more cap trade since A?

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Few ones since then for sure.
OK, do do they make their way

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back to the original owner?
That one hasn't.

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Well, no, I like this one.
He has to give me the Beersky 1

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back.
I don't think he had.

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I think he traded that one too
with somebody else.

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I think you re gifted the the
trade.

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He's trade.
It's got more trade.

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He's got more trading partners.
Yeah, man, I like that, though.

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The cap trade, Yeah, you got to
be careful because you know what

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if it's a?
What if it's like a hat you wore

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a couple, like real sweaty days?
Like nobody would want my golf

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cap trade use.
Wash caps?

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Yeah.
How do you do that?

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Dishwasher.
No.

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In the washer.
In the regular washer.

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Yeah, regular, and you don't
ruin the brim.

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No, you don't ruin the rim.
You just put it and you don't.

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You don't put it in the dryer
just to air dry it.

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I wash my caps all the time
because I work out in the caps

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OK, so I wash them all the time.
I've never ruined a cap.

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There's a lot of positivity that
is, Yeah, I remember.

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I think it was.
I think it was Pepsi back in the

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day.
If you drank a certain amount

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and you sent in enough labels,
you got a a hat Bender.

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A hat Bender.
Yep, it was plastic with like,

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kind of rubber bands, anything
striking A chord there.

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So if you ruin the brim, you can
fix it back up.

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Unless it was too flimsy.
Then you're toast.

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So there's that.
And then also you there's no way

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you can find them anymore, but
there were these like frames

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that you could put a cap in,
it's plastic and then you can

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actually put it in the
dishwasher.

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So it's like a box, basically,
and it's, you know?

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It was it was it kind of like a
car frame, to be honest with

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you.
You put the cap in and you

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snapped it shut and you put down
the top rack in the dishwasher.

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OK, My dad still has that.
OK?

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Because he washes his caps in
the dishwasher.

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Yeah, yeah, I know.
A lot of people do it in the

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dishwasher.
You know why?

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Because the brims get rimmed.
Because the brims ruined.

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His mutter was Mutter.
That's one of the most iconic

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Seinfeld scenes ever.
Yeah, for sure.

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Got that rolled up newspaper.
That's the second time I've

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referenced Seinfeld today, and
I'm hoping it's not the last.

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That's a great day, man.
Hall, we can talk about that.

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It's it's getting to be kind of
sad.

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You like I've noticed myself 8.
My jokes are aging, like my

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Seinfeld references.
No, no, they don't age out.

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There's a, you know, an age
limit now where it's it's blank

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eyes.
Like, what is that joke from?

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Maybe like his mutter was a
mutter.

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Not everyone gets it.
You just move on.

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It's at bats.
You just keep swinging.

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No, you just.
That's what I find with my jokes

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at work.
They're like, Jordan, this isn't

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funny.
I'm like, I don't care.

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I'm gonna keep swinging.
You gotta keep swinging, man.

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Yeah, you'll get a laugh
eventually.

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Yeah, exactly.
It's it's a numbers game and

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finally someone said Jordan
Jordan takes a lot of swings.

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I'm like, yeah, I do.
You do.

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You do.
Your your LinkedIn game is full

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of funny swings.
Oh yeah.

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How do you come up?
Like, that's an interesting way

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to use LinkedIn.
Now it's it's kind of.

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It's is it?
It's not a great way to use

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LinkedIn, that's for sure.
I noticed it.

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Yeah, it's true.
Somebody else has to be noticing

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it.
Yeah.

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How do I come up with that?
Why'd you decide?

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Why'd you decide to start doing
one liner on LinkedIn?

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Frustration.
Frustration.

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OK.
What is it?

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Spite?
That's what Jerry does.

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That's, yeah, spite.
Spite.

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No.
So LinkedIn is an awesome

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connecting tool, right?
It can be really awesome to

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connect with really good people.
But I do really feel like also,

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it's just like it's kind of
become just a little toxic, I

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think like a lot of socials in
different ways, yeah.

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Yeah, man.
And it's just like, I see a post

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that's like, I don't lead.
I learn, This is why.

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And then I'm like, Oh my God,
six paragraphs.

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Did you actually type this out?
And it's just like, don't get me

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wrong, I'm sure there's good
stuff out there, but it's like,

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then I see other stuff and
they're like, you're just,

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you're just touting yourself.
That's all It says, like all

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socials, right?
But I don't know, So what?

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What?
So these wrote one liners.

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I think I'm just trying to break
up people's feeds.

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You know, yeah, just something
like Die Hard is a Christmas

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movie like that.
Doesn't really belong on

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LinkedIn, but I'll put it on
there, you know?

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Yeah, I've gotten advice from
people saying that I shouldn't

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post that kind of stuff.
I'm like if they don't like my

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LinkedIn, they're definitely not
going to like my Facebook, my

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Twitter, my threads or my human
presence.

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My human presence, yeah, I'm
going to acquire taste.

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People just don't want to
acquire it.

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That's what I say about myself,
you know.

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So I don't know, man.
It's yeah, that's why I do the

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warm liners on on LinkedIn for
sure.

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OK.
You know, when you think of

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like, you know, you being a
marketer, it's an interesting

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way to look at it because we're
always looking for a

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differentiating factor, right,
What sets us apart from a

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crowded, noisy area.
It's extremely noisy and I think

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that it does it for you.
I notice it every time I see

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when I notice it because it's so
different than what you're there

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you're expecting to get.
Who's this Chuck?

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That's what you say.
Who's this, Chuck?

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I mean, we know each other more
than in passing, so I know what

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to expect, but for sure, for for
others who maybe, like you've

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just connected with that you've
never met or something, they

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probably see a LinkedIn post and
it definitely sets you apart

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from from others.
And for all intents and

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purposes, to me, that's a good
thing, you know?

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Could be all right.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
I mean, and I I've had a boss

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tell me in the past, like, what
are you doing?

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Like, hey, man, like it's it's
my kitchen.

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If you don't like it, you can
just close the, close the

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window.
You know, that kind of a thing.

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Like that's why I'm cooking.
This is who I am.

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I should apologize.
But I'm unapologetic about it

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because it's it's it's it's just
social media.

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That's all it is.
You know what I mean?

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So I'm not saying anything that
controversial.

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I'm not saying, like we didn't
land on the moon.

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I'm just saying like.
Oh man, like shredded cheese is

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awesome.
Like I know.

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Connect with me, 'cause like,
even my profile picture, it's

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not the typical, like like this
or whatever.

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It's it's me in a weird suit
that I got off of wish.com and

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I'm wearing it at a wrestling
show, you know?

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Yeah.
So I don't know, man.

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I don't know about LinkedIn.
Sometimes it's like a drug for

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me.
It's an abusive relationship.

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And I'm just.
I just love the abuse.

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Yeah.
Yeah, so wish I have you.

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Have you seen these weird T moo
ads around?

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Like TikTok and stuff?
OK.

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What's you said?
T Moo T moo yeah, it's T moo.

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I'm not completely sure yet.
It seems like a it seems like

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another wish.com to me, where
there's like obscenely low

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prices like yesterday.
I can't remember what social

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platform it was on, but it was
like 87 cents.

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Literally it said $0.87 for this
like leather.

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Pack that, you know, people
would probably pay $200 for if

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it actually looked like that,
but I wonder if like you get it

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and it's like goes on the back
of AGI Joe or something.

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I've bought so much stuff off of
Wish Did you?

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I have.
I've purchased suits my like

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infamous like gold lapel suit
that I've worn a lot.

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I've worn that.
I bought that off of wish.

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I bought so much stuff off a
wish and I've honestly buy that

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suit.
You get a free buy the you get a

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free bowl of soup.
Free bowl of soup.

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I'd say 90% of my purchases have
been awesome.

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Like, no issues, OK?
And then the other ones are

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pretty ridiculous, 'cause I
thought once I was buying

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chalkboards for my gym, my home
gym.

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I thought I was buying big
chalkboards, 'cause I wanted to

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be able to, you know, I was
like, draw stuff on there, track

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my progress and all that stuff
and.

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I end up with chalkboards like
this big like 5 of them nice I.

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Was like, what am I supposed to
do with these?

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So I just threw them away,
'cause they're like three.

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It was $3 total.
Like, I'm not going to use

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chalkboards that small.
Yeah, I got, like, a free

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miniature crossbow off a wish
because I got enough points

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racked up.
That's what I used for my

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points.
So I got a miniature crossbow

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that uses toothpicks.
OK, so that's pretty cool.

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That's cool.
I've had to stop myself from

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buying a sword off of wish far
too many times, like a big sword

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like $12.00.
I'm like, what am I going to do

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with this sword other than Go
like, yeah, like crafted by a

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legitimate samurai like.
Yeah, so no, I bought tons of

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stuff, especially during the
pandemic.

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I bought so much stuff.
I wish, like we all did.

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We all bought stupid stuff
during the pandemic, you know?

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So yeah, I haven't bought
anything though in a year.

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So I've been clean for about a
year.

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Good, good.
You got off of it.

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Yeah, that's good to hear.
Yeah.

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So I guess T moo's like a a new
one of those is what I'm getting

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out of it.
But their their their stuff is

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so like so sketchy.
The, like, they'll do weird

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TikTok ads where it's like now I
immediately know it's T moo.

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But at first I was like, they
got me to scroll on a couple of

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them and it'll be like something
completely outside of anything

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they're trying to talk about.
And then you get to the last,

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like, swipe and it's team.
Oh, like what?

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You should buy something.
Yep.

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No, no, no, no, probably not.
I never ordered anything off.

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Wish.
Really.

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I'm not a I'm not a trinket like
thing thing person.

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I'm AI.
Try to be as minimalist as

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possible.
Like you wouldn't have like a

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giant wooden table carved from
like a red oak tree, a bunch of

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paintings and stuff like that
that wouldn't, No.

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That wouldn't be you, would it?
No, no, not at all.

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No.
This is Maple.

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Maple You wouldn't have a giant
Maple table from the Land of

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Land Before Time.
Basically, yeah.

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I don't.
They don't have this on wish, my

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friend.
This is straight from Wisconsin.

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My my favorite thing to do on
wish was to mess with the

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algorithm by searching specific
things to see what the combined

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result would be.
So I'd search like.

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Medieval swords, clown makeup,
vampire fangs, and like

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measuring cups just to see what
it comes up with because it

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always comes up with something
weird.

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So that was my favorite thing to
do for sure.

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All right.
Yeah, Just to see where see

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where the road LED you.
Man, Yeah, that's hilarious.

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Yeah, I want to talk about your
Rd.

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I want to talk about wrestling.
Let's do it.

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Yeah.
Yeah, you're doing it again.

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Right.
Kind of doing it again.

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OK, Kind of doing it again.
I'm being extremely selective of

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when I wrestle and where I
wrestle, OK because I don't

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really feel like I'm back to
where I was when I was wrestling

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a lot.
Kind of like I'm I'm like in the

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minor leagues, you know what I
mean?

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Working my way back into a good
wrestling shape kind of a thing.

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And also getting back my
confidence too.

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Three years gone is a long time
from wrestling from anything, so

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I'm being pretty selective.
I'm having a lot of fun.

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I'm having a lot of fun working
for mainly 2 promotions I'd say

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right now.
So yeah, that's awesome.

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I just did it this past weekend
in Milwaukee.

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Nice.
Yeah, Fatal 4 Way match.

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For the battle tested Heritage
Championship, I think so, yeah,

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it was a good time.
Was it?

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Is it taped or can you tell us
the outcome?

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I I did lose.
It's gonna be on some streaming

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site.
It's like Battle.net or fight

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net or something like that, but
we'll be streaming, OK.

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I don't have it off that, man.
I'm pretty bad promoter, but

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that's OK.
But it was a good match, so it

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was a really good time.
You're the talent.

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Other people do the promotion.
Yes, yeah.

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Yeah, I was in there with like 3
people who I barely knew and it

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was a really good match.
It was a crowd of about 80,

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which was actually pretty good
considering there's like three

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other shows going on in the
area.

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OK, you know what I mean?
So yeah, it was a good time.

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It was a really good time.
So just kind of a few months

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you've been back into it, right?
Yeah.

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OK.
So when did you start?

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Like originally, Yeah.
When did you first start

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wrestling?
I had my first match in February

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of 2012 in Luxembourg.
OK.

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Rendezvous in Luxembourg.
Yeah.

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OK, so you did it for what, 8-9
years before you?

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OK, What?
What led you to it?

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Were you a wrestling fan before
you started wrestling?

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Or how'd you how'd you get into
that?

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Yeah, I I grew up during the
best time in wrestling history,

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the Attitude Era.
So when like Stone Cold and The

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Rock and Triple H and Mankind
and Undertaker were all, you

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know, just.
Just really ripping it up on TV

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and I we didn't have cable
growing up.

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But then when Smackdown was on
UPN 32 on Thursday night, so it

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was free.
I just like head over heels for

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it.
Like my parents at first were

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like, OK, only watch like you
know, 10 minutes, half hour

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because it's, you know, it's
it's pretty violence on exactly

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for kids.
And then I just kept on begging

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them and begging them and my dad
actually got into it.

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And I think that was like.
My mom was like, I'm not going

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to win this fight.
Yeah.

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So yeah, it was just me and
you're like best thing.

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Ever.
Best thing ever.

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Yeah.
You know, So I was just, yeah,

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me and my dad and my brother was
watching it every Thursday night

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and I was just like hooked.
And it was because I grew up

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like a giant X-Men fan and like
Marvel fan.

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And to me, I was like, this is
the next step.

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These are real life superheroes.
These are superheroes and super

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women, you know?
So I got into it pretty hard.

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I was all about collecting like
the VHS tapes.

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I would buy tapes from like
garage sales, like wrestling

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tapes.
I would rent videos from

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Hollywood video all the time,
the wrestling video games, the

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swag, the shirts, all of it.
I was like head over heels and I

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followed it pretty closely until
mid 2006 or seven I want to say

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And that is completely like.
I was like, I'm just done.

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I need a break.
I can't keep trying to memorize

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every single Internet
Intercontinental Champion like

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all the time I need a break.
And then in 2000, mid 2010, I

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got, I just fell back into it
because I had a roommate that

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was into it and I like, I felt
like a kid all over again.

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I was like, man, this is
awesome.

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Like, this is really, really
awesome.

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It's it's more entertaining than
ever.

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They have more of a worldwide,
worldwide reach.

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And I just like.
It was awesome.

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It was like being in love again,
you know?

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That's the best way I can
describe it.

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And I watched it really, really
hard.

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And then in I'm just going to go
right into the little wrestling

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thing.
How's that sound?

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Right.
Yeah, absolutely.

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Like mid two, like November
2011, I saw a Facebook post for

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a show, a local show happening
and I was like looking at the

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the event page and I think
that's interesting.

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I didn't even know that they had
like local wrestling.

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Still, I didn't think so.
Because you know.

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And I messaged the promoter name
is Bruno.

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I don't even know how to say his
last name, but everybody is

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Mars.
Bruno Mars.

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Bruno Mars yeah, yeah.
Bruno Mars was the the promoter

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and I said, hey, big time
wrestling fan, you know, would

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it be cool if I just came and
like helped out and just like

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hauled some stuff around.
He's like, he's like, hey, like

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you're kind of, you're kind of
big want to just be a wrestler.

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It's like, Oh yeah, that's good,
that's.

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That's good.
Chuck and I was like, sure.

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And he's like, all right, bring
50 bucks and we'll get you in

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the ring for the show.
So you had to pay him?

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Yeah, OK.
So showed up earlier and it was

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funny cuz like you know, I was
24 at the time and I was

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thinking like.
I'm going to get there and it's

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going to be like a who's who of
variable local athletes.

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Like they're going to be the
most impressive people.

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I showed up and I was like,
woof, these are not impressive

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athletes.
There was like a 15 year old who

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had his mom with them because he
couldn't legally be there

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without her, you know, because
he's a minor.

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There was some girl who had like
one match and then literally

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disappeared off the face of the
earth.

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And then there was one or two
other people that actually had

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some talent.
And yeah, I just got tossed

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around the ring for a few hours
before the show.

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And he's like, if you want to
keep coming, like, you know,

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here's the rate or whatever.
Eventually I can hook you up

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with a trainer, but just keep
coming, come in early, pay your

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dues, set up the ring, and we'll
get your ring time.

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And like, that was it.
You know what I mean?

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That's just like, that's that
was my weird introduction.

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Like, there was no, there's
nothing malicious about it.

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It was just like, here's
somebody go get beat up.

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You know so.
Fascinating.

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So why'd you have to pay him?
Because it was his ring, his

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show.
It's like I had to like it is a

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bit of a scam.
He I definitely didn't need to

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pay $50.00 for two hours of ring
work every single time.

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But compared to what I hear from
other people, what they had to

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pay or whatever, like thousands
of dollars, you know, or like

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crazy down payments, like 50
bucks three or four times really

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isn't that bad.
So that was like.

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What you would consider that
like a like a gatekeeper fee

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kind of.
Yeah.

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Type thing.
OK, yeah.

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And he did.
I mean he he was true to his

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word.
He did find me a local trainer.

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I thought there's Shane Hills.
He runs the Dojo of Pain in

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Maribel, So about 20 minutes
South of Wisconsin, South of

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Wisconsin, South of Green Bay.
He has a ring set up in his in

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his barn at his house.
He has a giant farm and he did

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hook me up.
So like I mean it all worked out

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so.
Yeah, pretty good.

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And then I had my first official
match in February of 2012.

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OK.
So then what from there, anytime

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we jump into something new you
like?

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Try to find ways to get better.
This is a a unique thing.

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How did you like?
What did you do?

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Did you tap on other like
wrestling talent as mentors?

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Did you have like a like you say
trainer?

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Do they have that?
Like, how did you get better?

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Yeah, so it was mostly about
just getting that ring time.

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So every single Sunday, man Dang
near every single Sunday, except

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for sparingly during football
season.

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Or like when it was really,
really cold in winter from yeah,

447
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:07,360
like 2012 till 2014.
Weird is in the ring for like 3

448
00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:09,520
hours.
So it's just practice.

449
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,280
It's it's bumping, it's hitting
the ropes.

450
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,400
It's learning the fundamentals
of wrestling.

451
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,400
It's learning how to cut a
promo, it's how to create a

452
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,680
character, how to create a
character that's huge,

453
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,640
basically.
So it's that that piece.

454
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,920
And then also, yeah, I found
some mentors.

455
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,440
I found some really, really
great local guys who I I

456
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,360
basically just begged for me to
hop in their car with them when

457
00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:35,920
they would hit the road to do
shows.

458
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,280
I was like I'll drive, I'll pay
for gas, I'll do whatever, just

459
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,240
like please take me with you
like maybe hopefully try to get

460
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,520
me a match on the show later on.
I'll work for free, whatever.

461
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,720
But I just do like I I think
coming into wrestling as like a

462
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,680
full grown adult, like a 2324
year old, I think it set me up

463
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,800
because I understood like the
dues paying process.

464
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,640
I knew I was going to have to
kind of eat some dirt for a

465
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,480
while before I made it.
So yeah, and it worked.

466
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,000
It worked out completely.
Yeah, absolutely.

467
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,560
You talk about the like, I think
one of the most fascinating

468
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,600
wrestling parts to me is, is
that persona creation.

469
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:14,920
Like you, you, you create this
existence that's, you know,

470
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,400
outside of your norm, but
probably builds upon your norm.

471
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,560
What?
Which Which of those would you

472
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:28,360
say came first for you because?
I think your personality really

473
00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:30,240
draws itself to that.
Like you're good at that stuff.

474
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,920
You're very quick witted and
like you think about what it

475
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,480
takes to do like some of the the
iconic promos that we see of

476
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,440
like Macho Man and Hulk and
stuff that that's a unique

477
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,000
talent that you can get better
at.

478
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,680
But a lot of it's innate too,
and a lot of that is personality

479
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,000
driven and you would definitely
have that.

480
00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:53,480
Did that come because of
wrestling, or is that just

481
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,520
something that made you a good
wrestler?

482
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,040
So I think I'm gonna answer
your, answer your question this

483
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,680
way.
I found what really worked for

484
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,240
me to entertain the crowd,
whether I was a heal, which for

485
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,560
your audience heals a bad guy.
Babyface is a good guy, whether

486
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,440
I was a healer or a babyface.
What entertained them was the

487
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,800
stuff that was entertaining,
like the crew in the car.

488
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,800
So if I was saying things, I was
like making them pop, I could

489
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,000
tell I was like, I think this
could work kind of a thing

490
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,000
because I was.
I was clearly getting like the

491
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,320
educated minds to to believe
what I was saying and doing.

492
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,520
So I just started translating
that into that.

493
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:39,080
So my first character was I was
gorgeous Jordy Lee, when my hair

494
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,080
was really long.
And I called myself the grizzled

495
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,960
young vet.
And I basically acted as though

496
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,720
I had been hitting the towns,
you know, for 20 some odd years

497
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,400
and all this stuff.
And I was like this great

498
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,160
wrestler in my mind.
And I I was billed from

499
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,600
originally hot land in Georgia,
which later turned into hot land

500
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,240
in Wisconsin.
You know, I even like, spoke

501
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,440
with like a dumb Southern drawl,
which I was like, well, I'm

502
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,800
technically from southern
Wisconsin, you know, I didn't

503
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,080
say which S you know.
So yeah, I was just doing

504
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,720
whatever I could to like pop,
pop the the people in the back.

505
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,320
And then I would just pop the
crowd.

506
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,800
OK, so how did I develop that?
I don't know.

507
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:22,040
I think just just dumb luck, you
know, maybe like luck plus

508
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,200
preparation, you know, because I
had a great foundation of

509
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,200
awesome wrestling training and I
just had to learn how to

510
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:33,400
entertain and I'm pretty
extroverted, so I didn't mind

511
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,800
the opportunity.
Yeah man.

512
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,760
So it's kind of like a well, all
that floats through my mind is

513
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,320
like a comet testing their
material and other comics like.

514
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,560
It always it boggles my mind how
like, you will see a comic

515
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,760
rattle off the funniest thing
you've ever heard, and another

516
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,520
comic will just, like, snicker.
You know, they'll just like,

517
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,600
huh?
Yeah, and when they know, it's

518
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,360
absolutely hilarious, but they
know.

519
00:25:57,360 --> 00:26:00,160
I think a comic knows.
At least when they can get that

520
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,800
snicker, it probably means more
than a whole room of crowd of

521
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,080
laughs.
Yeah, like, one of my, like, go

522
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:11,920
to promos was as a heel.
I would come out there with,

523
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,680
like, my tag partner Joey
Avalon.

524
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:19,840
And I would say, like, all
right, this is a robbery.

525
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,200
But all your phones, all your
bags in this ring and I'll say

526
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,440
you have 24 hours with like, a
sneer, you know, just stupid,

527
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,920
like, really, really dumb.
And someone's like, Oh my gosh.

528
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,360
Like, you know, there's some
random crowd in, like,

529
00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:37,080
Marshfield.
Like, I can't believe this.

530
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,640
Like, what are we doing?
Like you have 24 hours and that

531
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,640
would say thank you and I'll
give the mic back.

532
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,640
Just stupid, Yeah?
So what was it?

533
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,640
Heel and babyface.
Heel is the bad guy.

534
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,960
Babyface is the good guy.
And that's that's like wrestling

535
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,960
dictionary.
So, like the the top levels are

536
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,840
calling it the same thing.
That's fascinating.

537
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,920
You know why?
I'm assuming babyface is

538
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,080
literally from like the old
carny days of like circus

539
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,040
wrestling and the babyface was
probably just a naturally good

540
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,280
looking person.
As far as heel, this might be

541
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,840
wrong, so if anyone gets angry
at me, don't get too angry at

542
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,040
me, but I literally think a heel
was because they would just they

543
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,400
would kick more so they would
use their heel.

544
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,200
Sure, I could be wrong, but I
feel like that's like the

545
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,320
circus, like carny definition.
OK, Is that where wrestling

546
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,200
history stems from?
Is the circus culture.

547
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,240
Yeah.
OK, circus and carnivals, Yeah.

548
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,680
It was like yard markers saying,
like, who dares to fight this

549
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,680
man?
He aids 300 pounds.

550
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,960
He's fearsome, you know?
And a lot of times it would be

551
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,280
plants in the in the audience,
you know?

552
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,400
Yeah.
Or or it would be a real person

553
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,440
and it was real legitimately
fighting.

554
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,400
And these these matches would go
on for like an hour, you know,

555
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,120
and they would be exhausted
afterwards.

556
00:27:56,120 --> 00:28:01,160
And there was a lot of times not
a clear winner or loser, but as

557
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,960
long as the crowd was
entertained, I think that's all

558
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,520
that mattered.
There was concerns back then

559
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,920
even about like if it if there
were plants or if they were

560
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,840
fixing it or whatnot.
But I think that's like the the

561
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,800
circle was like well, too late
and they would just skip down,

562
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,720
right, you know?
And then on to the next on to

563
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,560
Madison, on to Eau Claire.
You know.

564
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,400
So yeah, yeah, it started on.
I mean, Abraham Lincoln was a

565
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,400
was a pro wrestler.
Really.

566
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:26,840
Yeah.
He was a pro wrestler and a

567
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,720
boxer, Yeah.
I knew he was a boxer, yeah.

568
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,720
Teddy Roosevelt, I think, boxed
a pro wrestler too, I think just

569
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,400
before he took office, yeah.
Really.

570
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:36,520
Yeah.
Listening.

571
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,880
You think, well, you know the
when you can try to connect

572
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,600
those dots it it makes sense,
right?

573
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,120
The.
The circus is this is this

574
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,560
fleeting thing that's in and out
that and I think that's part of

575
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,600
the mystery or the mystery or
the draw of it.

576
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:57,440
It's in and out and then it's on
to the next place and it's it's

577
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,840
known for the the same type of
grandeur and and and draw.

578
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,200
I had never heard that though.
That's fascinating.

579
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,760
Yeah, I know.
It's like a whole crazy, crazy

580
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,320
history of carnies and stuff
like that.

581
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,680
And yeah, people, you know,
famous like strong men and stuff

582
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,440
like that with the giant
mustaches and you know, doing

583
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,040
push ups with with women on
their backs and then, you know,

584
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,760
wanting to fight someone in the
audience.

585
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,120
So yeah, yeah, many times, dude.
So how many?

586
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,680
How many like stage did you call
a stage name or what?

587
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,600
Yeah, give me a stage names
personas.

588
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,000
How many of those have you had?
So I start off just straight up

589
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,800
as Jordy Lee, which that's just
like my mom's name.

590
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,520
Nickname for me.
Just Jordan Lee.

591
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,760
Dici.
So Jordy Lee and then it was

592
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,120
gorgeous Jordy Lee because I had
very long curly hair.

593
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,960
And then when Jordy Nelson left
Green Bay or you know, Green Bay

594
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,880
chose not just to sign him,
resign him, I was like, well, he

595
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,800
was the most famous Jordy in
Green Bay.

596
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,680
And now I'm going to be famous
Jordy Lee.

597
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,680
You know I'm.
I'm the most famous Jordy in

598
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,560
Green Bay.
So famous Jordy Lee.

599
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,360
And then now, now that I'm kind
of starting to wrestle again,

600
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,920
I'm experimenting with Jords,
just GORDZ, because I kind of

601
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,520
like that, just charts.
You know, do you capitalize the

602
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,480
D like I do when I text you?
No, I can't.

603
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,400
The whole thing is capitalized.
All carts.

604
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,520
OK, All caps.
Let me You're an all caps guy.

605
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,640
That's all right, guy.
Where did you put on a LinkedIn

606
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,880
post once?
Like I put a lot of exclamation

607
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,240
points or something like that.
Oh, I'm a I'm a golden

608
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:31,800
retriever.
Yeah.

609
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,400
Yeah, because you're excited.
I'm the same way, dude.

610
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,480
I'm the same way.
All exclamation points, all

611
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,240
capitalized.
Yeah, I'm a golden retriever.

612
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,960
I'm very excited.
Yeah, every day is a gift,

613
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:40,920
right?
That's why I call it the

614
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,400
present.
Every, every.

615
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,240
I like that.
I like that.

616
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,680
Every exclamation point that I
put is authentic.

617
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,160
I have to.
You wean the you you navigate

618
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,680
this area of like OK, this
person's gonna think I'm a

619
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,080
freak.
I better make this one a period.

620
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,560
You don't care about that ALL
caps, dude.

621
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,960
Good morning.
So it's just Jord's now?

622
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,960
Yeah, Jord's.
I I have like one or two other

623
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,600
names I'm kind of tinkering
around with.

624
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,440
I'm gonna keep those close to
the vest.

625
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,600
But I'm, I think Jord's is what
I'm going with.

626
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,840
So.
So how?

627
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:19,920
But with getting back into it,
yeah, what is the what's the

628
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,280
intention around it?
Is it cause it's fun and you

629
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,280
want to love it again?
Yeah, it's, it's fun.

630
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,720
All of my close friends still do
it, so it's a good way to see

631
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,000
them.
It's a really fun way to make

632
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,200
some money on the weekends, you
know?

633
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,200
And also, it's kind of cool to
see 'cause I have a four year

634
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,960
old now, he can kind of see me
wrestle like this past week and

635
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,080
he got to get in the ring and
like rolled around and ran

636
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,200
around.
He loved it.

637
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,960
Loved the whole thing.
Does it make him nervous?

638
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,200
Does it make him nervous?
Seeing you, seeing you

639
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,840
wrestling.
No, no, not at all.

640
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,200
You know he loves it.
Yeah.

641
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,360
So yeah, I beat up my dad.
Yeah, yeah, pretty much.

642
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,880
Yeah.
No, I did a show in O'Connell.

643
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,800
I did Copper Fest in May and you
know, I was a heel and stuff and

644
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,360
he booed me and like he.
Laughed.

645
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,360
He booed you.
Yeah, he laughed the whole time.

646
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,400
He thought it was so cool, you
know, So yeah, it's it's just to

647
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,760
kind of pop him and it's a good
wave.

648
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,760
It's a good reason for me to,
like, want to keep trying to get

649
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,240
in good shape, you know, like
instead of just like, oh, I have

650
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,800
to work out today.
It's like, well, you know, I'm

651
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,640
working out, you know, gotta get
TV ready again, you know, so.

652
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,840
Yeah, yeah.
Which one would you say You

653
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,320
thrive as a a heel or as a
babyface?

654
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:38,040
Yeah, probably a baby face,
because I I have what I call a

655
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,520
resting nice face.
You.

656
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,600
Know too.
Like it's not too intimidating.

657
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,000
It's not like I'm not
unapproachable, you know?

658
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,160
So I'm just, I'm just natural
smiles and stuff like that.

659
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,920
And when I was a good heel, when
I was like an awesome heel just

660
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,200
because I was like finding so
much bitterness and so much like

661
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,880
hatred in my heart because I was
working like a terrible job.

662
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,880
I was barely getting paid well
enough to wrestle.

663
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,080
I was seeing other wrestlers
advance of the card that like

664
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,640
couldn't even like lace my
boots, You know what I mean?

665
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,520
Especially like up in Michigan.
Not to like poo poo too much on

666
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,200
wrestlers or whatever, but like
up there I was like man, how is

667
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,480
this happening?
So it was easy for me to be

668
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,080
healed, but like now as like a
35 year old dad, like what's

669
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,520
there to be angry about?
I can do it.

670
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,400
I can be a heel, like, pretty
easily.

671
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,840
Yeah, I'm I probably, I probably
always XLS a baby face.

672
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,960
For sure.
I mean and that that's probably

673
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,360
a pretty poignant thing and
super relevant, right?

674
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,000
Like even though you create
these personas and and you're

675
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,600
you're making this
entertainment, your real self is

676
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,040
going to bleed through at times.
So whatever you're feeling at

677
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,080
that times, and I and I know
that part of your journey when

678
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,400
you were working a job you
didn't love.

679
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,240
And stuff like that.
So at that times it probably, it

680
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,480
probably is resembling of just
what happens in life at that

681
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,080
moment.
Yeah, for sure.

682
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:03,480
Yeah, you know, and you know,
monetarily too, like it's more

683
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,680
fun being a babyface because if
you're getting cheered for like

684
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:07,880
people will buy your shirts
more.

685
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,679
Yeah, there's exceptions to that
because like there's exceptions

686
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:14,639
to every rule, but for the most
part, if you're a good guy,

687
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:16,400
you're usually going to sell a
lot more merch.

688
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,320
So sure.
Yeah.

689
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,960
Yeah.
So that it's probably that

690
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,560
hearing that it's probably a
little bit different intention

691
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,960
than it was at one time, right?
Because I know you you worked

692
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,159
even though you saw those people
that were getting moving up the

693
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:34,440
card, I mean you ended up doing
it pretty well.

694
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,880
And I think we talked about one
time that you had an invite to

695
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,080
like a WWE try out somewhere or
something.

696
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,159
So that's got to be pretty
exclusive.

697
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:43,320
So now, is the intention
different than it was then?

698
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:46,600
No.
So I still use stuff for WE.

699
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,120
The inside term is, it's called
extra work.

700
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,000
Basically you're, you're getting
paid to just kind of hang out,

701
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,880
which I mean, for me that's like
the perfect job, right?

702
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,040
I was going to say, yeah, what
do you got in the fruit

703
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:06,960
department, you know?
But it's cool because like, you

704
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,560
know, sometimes like they need
to fill like on TV, they need to

705
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,840
fill the scenes of like a, you
know, maybe just someone in the

706
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,360
background.
So you're literally, you're an

707
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,760
extra.
Like that's what they call you.

708
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,320
You're just an extra.
So I still do that from time to

709
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,400
time.
I did that this past January

710
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:25,680
actually, just for fun.
So yeah, I mean it's it is, it

711
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,560
is somewhat exclusive.
It's kind of like a cool thing

712
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,560
to to brag about for sure.
You know, like all those people

713
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,840
that moved with the cart faster
than me, like they never did it.

714
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,200
You know, I know wrestlers who
have been wrestling for 25 years

715
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,880
and they've never sniffed like
WB so and I've done it a ton

716
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,000
since like 2016 so.
Yeah, And because that was.

717
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,720
That was probably, I mean, when
you're working towards that the

718
00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:52,600
first time, you're probably just
trying to get the top of the

719
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,600
mountain right is as high as you
can go, yeah, for sure.

720
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,200
So what would you consider that?
What was your wrestling top of

721
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,120
the mountain?
What was the your marquee match

722
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,240
or something?
So it was definitely when I won

723
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:11,320
for a local local fed Wisconsin
professional Wrestling I finally

724
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,360
found I finally won the their
heavyweight title.

725
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,400
So the heavyweight title is
always going to be like the top

726
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,200
belt for any federation any
promotion.

727
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,040
So that was it.
That was for sure like the the

728
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:28,640
summer of Jords and like that
summer like and I like I almost,

729
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,760
I basically had to put together
like a resume of amazing work

730
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,560
like leading up to that where I
just, I mean I was pushed.

731
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,880
I mentioned before like but my
big mentor Joey, Joey Avalon, he

732
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,960
pushed the hell out of me.
So like, he was like, if you

733
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,200
want to be the top guy, you have
to put together awesome matches,

734
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,120
you have to put together awesome
film, you have to have great

735
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,080
promos, and you gotta get in
really, really good shape.

736
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,120
I mean, like, really good shape.
So to do that, I basically did

737
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,400
an hour's worth of cardio five
days a week, and then I would

738
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,880
lift for like another hour and a
half every single day.

739
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,800
So if you hear my bones like
creaking or cracking when I'm

740
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,120
walking around, that's why.
But yeah, so that's, that's what

741
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,480
I did and I finally won it at
Stadium Mania Three.

742
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,040
I want to say that was our big
show back in the day in 20.

743
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:20,680
Did I say 2016 or 2017, 2016,
20/17/2017?

744
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,960
Yeah, it was 2017.
And yeah, had a really fun,

745
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,520
like, Triple Threat Match.
And it was kind of a cool

746
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,360
experience because it was a
Trump Threat match.

747
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,800
So there's three people in it,
and the crowd was truly, truly

748
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,000
split three ways as to who they
thought was going to win.

749
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,240
And I was like the complete dark
horse.

750
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:38,760
Like, I had my fans and
everything like that.

751
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,720
But, like, it was kind of
already known that, like, oh,

752
00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:43,520
that's just Jords.
That's just Jordy Lee.

753
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,360
You know, he's like the pony guy
or whatever.

754
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,960
He's good.
He's a good feeler, a good hand.

755
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,600
But, like, he'll never be the
guy.

756
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,920
And it was pretty cool when I
want it.

757
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,920
You know, people can say
whatever they want about pro

758
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,560
wrestling, about how it's just
entertainment or how it's a soap

759
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,440
opera.
But like, moments like that, it

760
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,200
felt pretty real, you know?
And I remember like, I just sat

761
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,600
in the ring.
I just sat on my butt.

762
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:07,320
Yeah.
I looked at the belt and I kind

763
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:08,960
of like, I saw like a friend of
the crowd.

764
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,240
And I was just like like what is
this like?

765
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:14,560
Made it.
Yeah.

766
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,920
Like what is this you know.
And yeah they held the belt from

767
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,600
that was late July, held it till
December of that year.

768
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,600
So had a pretty good run.
I defended it on every single

769
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:27,960
show I was on.
Nice.

770
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,240
So yeah, that was a cool moment
for sure.

771
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,680
Yeah, very, very cool.
I thought that'd be an

772
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,320
interesting thing to talk about
too because that's a that's a

773
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,200
big point of conversation and it
seems like it happens between

774
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,480
like maybe casual wrestling fans
or people that aren't wouldn't

775
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,800
even consider themselves fans
and then what you would consider

776
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,520
more die hard or or like people
invested in it.

777
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,680
That I mean it all types of
entertainment are different in

778
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,720
their own way but but like.
I think you described that

779
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:05,000
perfectly about how there's the
work that goes into it is still

780
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,240
there like it's real.
Yeah, yeah.

781
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,200
And.
And for the people who are fans

782
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,920
and and watch and travel and see
these things like it's real for

783
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,080
them too.
Yeah.

784
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:17,800
Yeah.
Because they see the rise.

785
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,680
Yeah, When I won that belt,
there were people who came up to

786
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,560
me, like, they're like, I saw
your first match in 2012 against

787
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,800
sadists at the Rendezvous in
Luxembourg.

788
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,480
Like you saw my very first
match, you know?

789
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,840
And yeah, like the journey is
real.

790
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,880
Like it is.
It is real.

791
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,280
Like, it's a very real emotion
for sure.

792
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:38,320
Yeah.
Yeah.

793
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,480
Who's who are some of your like
wrestlers that you liked?

794
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,440
Like who were your favorite
wrestlers like growing up?

795
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,560
Yeah, yeah.
So The Rock for sure, 'cause he

796
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:53,000
was just larger than life, like
he was, Still is, Still is,

797
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,520
yeah.
Unbelievable with that guy's

798
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:59,480
build.
Yeah, yeah, the rock mankind

799
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,120
slash.
Like Mick Foley was one of his

800
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:07,080
other personas was huge for me.
Eddie Guerrero was really big.

801
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,480
I don't know if you remember
Eddie Guerrero, but he was just

802
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,800
awesome.
He was like, he had just such

803
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,680
like a dog mentality, 'cause he
was always smaller, but he was

804
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,160
just like.
He would just like not take any

805
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,600
nonsense from anybody.
And so I'd say him.

806
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,800
And then finally Edge, if you
remember Edge, really awesome

807
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,520
Canadian wrestler.
But yeah, those were probably

808
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,600
my, like my BIG4.
I'd say, yeah, I always like the

809
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:35,480
guys, like, like with with Mick
Foley, it was just like there

810
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,880
wasn't a whole lot amazing about
him.

811
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,480
Like, physically, you know, he
was tall.

812
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,960
He was like 6, three.
He was always like somewhere

813
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:48,560
between 2:50 or overweight, you
know, like, you know, But all he

814
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,520
did really well is like he got
beat up really well.

815
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,160
He just kept on getting up and
like was really positive.

816
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,000
So he was always huge for me as
like a chubby, like middle

817
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,040
schooler, you know, something to
kind of like attain to.

818
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,000
So, yeah.
And The Rock, obviously.

819
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,680
For sure.
Yeah, how about you?

820
00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:08,400
Who's your wrestlers?
I never got into wrestling very

821
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,680
much.
That's why I was exciting to

822
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,120
talk.
That's why I was excited to talk

823
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:16,160
with you.
I never I remember he wore a

824
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,080
mask.
Rey Mysterio, Junior.

825
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,400
I was just going to say that.
You narrow it down.

826
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,200
Yeah, he wore a mask.
He had tattoos.

827
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,000
He had a beard.
Long hair.

828
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,600
Came out the back of it.
Yeah, yeah.

829
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:27,880
Raymond Steer.
He's still kicking, man.

830
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,720
His kids wrestling now.
Really.

831
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:30,440
Yeah.
Dominic.

832
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,960
Yeah.
I I I remember liking him

833
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,880
because of like the acrobatic
stuff like I like to like the

834
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:41,640
off the ring like or off the top
rope jumping type stuff and but

835
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,360
I don't know.
I would I would probably say The

836
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,440
Rock too just 'cause I I just
appreciate like what The Rock

837
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,480
has done in his career.
He he is the epitome of being

838
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,920
able to like.
Build a a brand around himself

839
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:01,120
and and he's genuine too because
when he first started kind of

840
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,920
tinkering with like acting and
stuff while still wrestling

841
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,880
Hollywood basically told him
like you are too big to be a

842
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,920
movie star you are too big.
And he actually, like, not only

843
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,360
did he kind of cut out the
weightlifting, like he got like,

844
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,480
he got like lipo done, he got
legitimate, like liposuction

845
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,360
done to like make himself
smaller and skinnier.

846
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:20,360
Did he really?
I didn't know that.

847
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,680
Yeah.
And like a ton of cosmetic stuff

848
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,560
because he wanted to be more
like, more family friendly.

849
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,400
And then he just finally was
like, well, that's not me.

850
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,120
He's like, I love lifting
weights.

851
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,880
I love eating lots of food.
Like I'm just going to be me.

852
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,800
He's been great.
He's the biggest, like,

853
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,480
celebrity in the history of
Hollywood.

854
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,800
I would say everything he
touches is is going to be at

855
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,240
least good.
Yeah, he's massive, yeah, yeah,

856
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:51,640
but suits have been wrong about.
Creative stuff for ages in in

857
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,160
different things.
I mean, you know, I'm a huge

858
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,960
music fan.
Same thing happens in music

859
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,200
where like I was just watching
something.

860
00:43:01,240 --> 00:43:06,520
So Zach Bryan just released a
new album and he has a song

861
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:12,080
featuring the guy from the
Warren Treaty and he was talking

862
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:16,040
about his career early on about
a A music.

863
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,680
Whatever you call, we'll call
them like a talent person.

864
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:22,280
For.
For a label.

865
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,600
Yeah, for representing the label
though.

866
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,840
And he, this guy has an amazing
voice.

867
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,040
It's unbelievable to hear him
sing.

868
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,360
But the Warren Treaty has never
made it like huge or anything.

869
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,520
But, but they have a solid
amount of fans that appreciate

870
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,680
that, like the art they create,
right.

871
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:44,200
It's not like a big label music.
But he was saying that he was in

872
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,000
this.
This scenario with this talent

873
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,680
scout or whatever, and they said
nobody will ever buy your stuff.

874
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,640
Nobody wants to hear like that
type of voice.

875
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,200
And he is, he's a very like
raspy and soulful like compared

876
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,120
to Chris Stapleton type thing.
And he was like, what about

877
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,320
Chris Stapleton and I guess this
like, talent person at the time

878
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:07,120
who was hired to scout people
that would make music, People

879
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,160
would want to listen to his
like, oh, he'll be gone and, you

880
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,560
know, a few months, don't worry
about that.

881
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:15,000
And like, he turns into one of
the biggest stars on the planet,

882
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,920
you know?
And there there's that story

883
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,560
that happens you hear all the
time in music and anything

884
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,880
creative.
It's a really interesting

885
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:29,160
scenario and it probably equates
a lot to wrestling on like a

886
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,120
local scale because when a
certain amount of money gets

887
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,840
involved with something, there's
people that.

888
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,520
Are the decision makers you know
and and they come in, Trust me,

889
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,600
we call them suits.
Too the suits, Yeah, we call

890
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,360
them suits, yeah.
They come in and you know, they

891
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,920
put you know, supposed like
analytics around things and and

892
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,520
oh, they don't use analytics.
Trust me, they use analytics.

893
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,880
They come up with their own BS
mentality about why they don't

894
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,160
like someone.
I mean, yeah, I was the poster

895
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,320
child.
I believe it or not.

896
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,480
Believe it or not, Brad, there's
people out there that don't

897
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:04,800
like.
Me.

898
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:05,600
Oh goodness.
Huh.

899
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:10,240
That must be hard to believe,
but I had so many detractors,

900
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:17,840
one in particular who he just he
was just either weird or jealous

901
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,200
or something.
And he just like, I just don't

902
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,120
get it.
He's like, I don't.

903
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:23,960
I just don't get what people
don't like about you.

904
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,680
And I had so many of, like my
peers say like.

905
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,840
That's such a weird thing to
say, though, because, like, he's

906
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,560
acknowledging that people like
you.

907
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,320
Yeah, but not him.
And he would like, try tearing

908
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,200
apart like my gimmick, which at
the time I wore these tearaway

909
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,600
pants, I still kind of do.
But the tearaway pants that like

910
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,120
the like the basketball warm up
pants, my whole thing was that,

911
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,840
like, I would come out with that
and it was like my Hulkamania,

912
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,160
like ripping off the shirt.
Like the match does not start

913
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,360
until I take off my pants.
And obviously there's going to

914
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,320
be like, there's going to be
female fans that love it, but

915
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,600
there's going to be like dudes.
I think it's hilarious too.

916
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,760
And part of the thing would be
like, I would throw them up as

917
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,920
hard as I could and try to get
them stuck in, like ceiling fans

918
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,920
or get them in like the rafters
or get them to land on somebody

919
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,760
and the crowd would just, like,
lose their mind over it.

920
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,040
And he was saying to me, he's
like, I just don't get it.

921
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,280
I don't, I don't get, I don't
get why they don't, why they

922
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,240
like that.
And I was just like, you're

923
00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:17,200
proving that you don't watch
your products and you're proving

924
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,240
that you don't watch me.
So what what are we doing here?

925
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,000
Like, you want to make some
money or you want to make some

926
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,320
more problems?
Like, what are you doing here?

927
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,040
You know?
So but I was going to say you're

928
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,440
talking about music.
If it's OK.

929
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,360
Linkin Park, right.
One of the biggest, like, rock

930
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,240
bands of all time, Rock slash.
I mean, they're like a.

931
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,440
Linkin Park kind of made their
own genre of music and they're

932
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,840
hard to put in a in a hole.
So they were awesome, you know,

933
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,920
for all of us dudes that like
played sports, like we would

934
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,560
play their songs in the weight
room, right?

935
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,480
Like everything.
Like Linkin Park was huge, but

936
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:57,440
they didn't really actually get
their big, big break until they

937
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,280
for the first Transformer movie
that came out, the like the

938
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,560
Paramount movie studios were
like we're either going to go

939
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:09,400
with Linkin Park or like Stained
or some other like rock band for

940
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,400
like the big single.
Like that's going to be attached

941
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,800
to the movie, like the big, big
promotional single.

942
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,320
And someone was like we're
running Linkin Park.

943
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,480
All I've done Linkin Park, it's
right there like that's that's

944
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,160
going to be the movie, that's
going to be the song that plays

945
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,400
in the end credits.
That's the song that's going to

946
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:23,920
be featured in the background of
the trailers.

947
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,400
I'm telling you, this is right.
And the guy was like, I think we

948
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,920
should go with Stained or
Metallica, maybe some other more

949
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,080
established rock band.
I'm telling you, it's Lincoln

950
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,520
Park.
Like they have more mass appeal,

951
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,280
like, especially overseas and
you'll know.

952
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,840
And because of that, they had a
giant, giant second act and they

953
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,440
were already huge, like in the
US Lincoln Park.

954
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,840
And then because of Transformers
came out global release, they

955
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,720
had this crazy crazy giant like
second act.

956
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,160
So yeah.
That's fair.

957
00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:54,640
Lincoln Park is a really just a
really.

958
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,480
Cool band to talk about because
they like.

959
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,000
They did it their own way.
They made they paved their own

960
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,080
path.
You might be surprised by this.

961
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,520
Probably not.
I I remember this very few

962
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,960
things I remember from like
middle school assignments.

963
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,880
But I I did a middle school
writing assignment about the

964
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:18,600
song In The End by Linkin Park.
And I wrote about, like, the

965
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,880
existential crisis of like, in
the end, like nothing really

966
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,280
matters.
And you might be surprised that

967
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:30,320
I was thinking about that.
But it's like to reach that

968
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,960
person, like that kid, you know,
whatever that was 12 year old

969
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:38,720
Brad or whatever, to like the
people that were so touched when

970
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,200
Chester Bennington, when he when
he passed away, just by his

971
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,880
lifetime of work of music,
that's crazy.

972
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,040
They they they moved a lot of
people and they did it their

973
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,480
way.
And that's part of that.

974
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,880
Like, that's part of that
authenticity that gets tamed by

975
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,440
those suits sometimes.
Suits.

976
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,920
Yeah, like nobody was going to,
nobody was going to do that to

977
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,600
Prince, you know, nobody was
going to tell Prince.

978
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,200
Like, like Prince probably would
have played for $5 in the

979
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,680
backyard.
To Prince, though.

980
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,520
When he performed at the Super
Bowl, do you know that they

981
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,160
tried telling him that he was
going too long or like, and

982
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,840
maybe had to cut it short
because it was raining and he

983
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,880
was like, can you make it rain
more?

984
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,200
Like, I'm Prince, I'm going to
go as long as I want, yeah.

985
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,040
Now it's tightened up quite a
bit with all the acts that have

986
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,000
come since then.
They have a really, really hard

987
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,320
on and a hard out.
But like, Prince was just like,

988
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,960
I'm Prince, you know?
Yeah, and think about the idiot

989
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,000
that would have made that call.
Calling Prince off the stage

990
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,200
when pouring rain, singing
Purple Rain.

991
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,760
Probably the most probably.
God, you could probably say the

992
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,520
most iconic Super Bowl moment,
halftime experience moment.

993
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,200
Oh yeah, for.
Sure.

994
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,800
I mean, you can talk about the
JT and Janet, Janet Jackson

995
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,960
thing, but like that's just like
click bait, you know, Prince

996
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,400
playing in pouring rain with the
Purple Rain guitar singing

997
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,040
Purple Rain.
That's great.

998
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,440
Get out of here.
Yeah.

999
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,040
And the suit trying to pull him
off.

1000
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,480
So you're getting rained on?
Oh my God, man.

1001
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,600
I tell the boys about this in
the group chat afterwards.

1002
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,680
Yeah, I talked about the suits,
talking about the suit.

1003
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:10,760
Yeah.
And I want to, I want to touch

1004
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,080
on that a little more too,
because that was probably a a

1005
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,240
thing to navigate when you left
wrestling for a while after

1006
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:21,240
doing it that long, like that's
where your circle of people were

1007
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,080
like that.
Did you have any resounding,

1008
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:29,600
like, impact or effect from that
or or memories of what that was

1009
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:34,240
like to just, like, leave that
and then probably still try to

1010
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:36,120
stay connected with them but in
a different way?

1011
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:41,000
Yeah, you know, that was tough.
There was two things that was

1012
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,160
tough about that as one, kind of
admitting that I wasn't going to

1013
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:45,800
see my close friends as much
anymore.

1014
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:51,640
And two, like the kind of saying
goodbye to like a person and

1015
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,320
like, like the Jordy Lee.
Like, it's hard saying goodbye

1016
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,880
to that because I was taught so
much how to, like, build a

1017
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,920
character, but I was never
taught how to, like, say goodbye

1018
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:03,120
to a character, You know, that
was really, really tough.

1019
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,040
And it's going to sound weird
when I say it like this, but I

1020
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,160
actually got really lucky
because like, COVID hit like

1021
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,400
three months later, so wrestling
was shut down for everybody, not

1022
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,640
just me.
Suckers.

1023
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,880
So.
So everybody was disconnected,

1024
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,400
you know.
But it was a little tough to,

1025
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,280
like, not see my friends as much
anymore.

1026
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,360
And I would have some friends to
be like, just come to shows and

1027
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,760
be like, you don't understand
how hard that is for me.

1028
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,640
Like, Oh yeah, I just gave up
this huge thing, Walked away

1029
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,520
from it pretty much at the top,
too.

1030
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,840
Like, I'm not just going to come
to a show and hang out, you

1031
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,400
know, I'm not just going to do
that.

1032
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:38,880
Or like, they're like, yes, come
do this match.

1033
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:43,640
I'm like, I just like because my
final match was like crazy,

1034
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,080
crazy emotional, had like so
many interesting pieces to it.

1035
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,560
And I was like, I can't, I can't
possibly just do another match

1036
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,320
right now.
Yeah, you know, so.

1037
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,520
Yeah.
So what you you had made that

1038
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,920
conscious decision and then you
had to do like a couple more

1039
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,040
events to like wrap up the year?
Or something.

1040
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,640
Yeah.
So I actually, more or less, the

1041
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,440
wheels started turning.
My son was born in.

1042
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,800
I have to check my tattoo.
Yeah, March.

1043
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,120
That's why I got it.
March 2019, About a month and a

1044
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,840
half later, I was just like, why
am I wrestling?

1045
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,440
Like, why am I wrestling?
It's it's dumb.

1046
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,640
It's hard to do with like a
toddler.

1047
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,920
With my wife and I too.
In terms of support system, it's

1048
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,440
pretty much just us supporting
ourselves.

1049
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,040
We don't have a whole lot of
family in the area.

1050
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,120
So it's not like we can just be
like, Oh yeah, Grandma, grandpa,

1051
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:33,280
come watch James while I go
bleed for dollars, you know?

1052
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:41,440
So see, I made the decision in
April of 2019 and kind of

1053
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,800
started like telling like, some
of the promoters, like, you

1054
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:48,320
know, if we could kind of wrap
some things up, you know, that'd

1055
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,240
be great by like January.
And they're like, why?

1056
00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:52,720
What's January?
I was like, I just want to be

1057
00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:55,560
done in January and they're
like, what are you going to do

1058
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:56,800
after this?
I said, I don't know, I'm just

1059
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,680
going to work.
I guess that's a dumb idea.

1060
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,480
But it actually ended up working
out really well because then in

1061
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,960
October of 2019, that's when I
decided to, like go to TC for

1062
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,560
the first time and like, find
out about programs.

1063
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,280
So January worked out really
well because that's when my

1064
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,720
first class started.
Like I had my last match, like

1065
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:22,880
January 12th.
I cut my hair January 13th and I

1066
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:27,400
think I had my first class like
January 21st or something like

1067
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:28,760
that whenever the winter break
ends.

1068
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:34,080
So yeah, yeah.
It's amazing that it's amazing

1069
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,200
what the like, that's a, you
know, a pretty.

1070
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,480
Pretty deep moment compressed
into a short amount of time and

1071
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,280
it's like I would I'd be willing
to guess it sounds like a lot of

1072
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,000
that was driven by becoming a
dad.

1073
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:51,000
It's really amazing the change
that happens when you become a

1074
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:56,400
parent that like the wires work
in different ways.

1075
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:01,000
It's it's crazy so is it would
is that someone would drove that

1076
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,120
yeah.
Just I wanted to be around more.

1077
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,080
Because it's a weekend gig,
obviously you're on the road and

1078
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,400
and you know, it was like
starting to drain on me too.

1079
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:17,080
Because it wasn't just like the
hard part was never wrestling

1080
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,920
for 20 minutes, getting beat up,
all that stuff.

1081
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:24,160
The hard part was work, 4045
hours a week.

1082
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,960
I have to make sure I'm working
out at least four to five days a

1083
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,200
week, you know, So that's an
hour each day, hour and a half.

1084
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,560
I got to make sure I'm tanning a
few days a week.

1085
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,800
So I look, OK, you know what I
mean?

1086
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,280
Repairing my gear, cleaning my
gear, ordering new gear,

1087
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:43,320
ordering shirts to sell at to
basically hawk at shows, so

1088
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,080
making sure I had a good
inventory, hitting up promoters

1089
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:52,040
and different promoters across
the Midwest, confirming details

1090
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,600
or trying to get new bookings
right.

1091
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:58,480
So there's a lot of networking
involved, watching matches back,

1092
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,320
you know, at night to make sure
to see how I was doing.

1093
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:04,600
Yeah.
And then they hit the road.

1094
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,640
I mean, there was some nights
sometimes when I would drive

1095
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,440
four or five hours in a day
wrestling and come back same

1096
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,760
day.
So it was a lot, man.

1097
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,320
It was a lot.
And it was just starting to wear

1098
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,800
on me.
And some people can do it

1099
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,120
forever.
I mean, this will be the third

1100
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,280
time I mentioned them.
But Joey Avalon, like, he's

1101
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,440
going to do it forever, like,
literally until his like bones

1102
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,520
like fall apart and then he's
going to repair his bones and

1103
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:24,560
he's just going to keep doing
it.

1104
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,760
He loves it.
But for me, it was just like it

1105
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,800
was really certainly wear on me,
you know?

1106
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,240
Yeah.
What's what was the geographic

1107
00:55:31,240 --> 00:55:33,960
range that you were doing?
Like where, where, how far did

1108
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,320
you go?
So usually as far South as like

1109
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,400
Chicago, I would go up to the UP
quite a bit.

1110
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,760
It's like Marinette, Escanaba,
Gladstone and then out to

1111
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,280
Minnesota.
I wrestled a ton in Twin Cities

1112
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,200
for like probably my favorite
place, pressing battleground,

1113
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,360
really cool venue.
And then far West of that too,

1114
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,400
probably about an hour or two
West of, like, the Twin Cities.

1115
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:04,400
So yeah, yeah, man, it's a lot.
100%, I mean, yeah.

1116
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:09,680
And I did most of the traveling
in my 2002 Buick Century Nice

1117
00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:12,200
and I retired with like 300,000
miles on it.

1118
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,560
So yeah, yeah, what?
What?

1119
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,520
You mentioned ordering new gear
there and stuff.

1120
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:22,360
How, how does that, like, how do
you put that together?

1121
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,000
Like what do you need?
And yeah, how do you get it?

1122
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,960
So there's some stuff that you
can buy, like added Dunham's,

1123
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:33,000
like your knee pads or like the
spandex stuff like that.

1124
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,000
I know a lot of wrestlers that
just they buy, they literally

1125
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,800
buy material and they just make
it themselves.

1126
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,640
Some people are very talented
with sewing, but then for the

1127
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:46,240
rest of us schmucks, it's like
finding someone online like

1128
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,720
finding a gear maker.
Or there's a couple of companies

1129
00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:52,760
that are like listed
nationallyhighspots.com will do

1130
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:53,600
it.
Easy money.

1131
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,960
Those are two different sites
that will make gear for you.

1132
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,000
Well, I was just like, hey, do
you know, do you know Ben's

1133
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,560
wife?
That's what makes gear.

1134
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,120
Oh, my gosh.
Like, you know, because you want

1135
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,480
to keep it a secret because you
don't want the masses to know

1136
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:07,920
because then she's going to get
really busy.

1137
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,920
She's going to lose her mind.
Then you'll never see her again.

1138
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,520
So yeah, So buying gear, making
gear.

1139
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,840
I've had people design gear for
me, and I just send off and, you

1140
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,680
know, send your waist size and
that's about it.

1141
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:21,520
Yeah.
OK.

1142
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,560
Yeah.
So what?

1143
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,280
Getting back into it you just
ordered like what do you call

1144
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:31,080
it?
A kit or something like yeah, so

1145
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,920
I can't remember his name, but
my buddy Brock turned me on to

1146
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:39,000
him, this really awesome gear
maker that lives in Mexico.

1147
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,320
That is like awesome.
Really, really awesome.

1148
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,200
And I was like, I just need a
new pair of trunks.

1149
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:45,880
Everything else fits good.
The knee pads are good.

1150
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,440
The boots are like holding
together.

1151
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:52,120
I just need a new pair of trunks
and I decided to go with like

1152
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,040
kind of like a royal purple,
like a like a real like velvety

1153
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:56,400
purple.
Because I I don't really.

1154
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,280
I've never had purple trunks
before.

1155
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,960
I drew the duck blue because
I've never seen a blue duck.

1156
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:07,880
And I I designed on Canva like
Jords on the on the butt because

1157
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,280
I wanted jords on there.
And then on the front, I put

1158
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,840
these three stripes that
represent me and my two buddies,

1159
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,800
Joey and Brock.
And then on the other side, I

1160
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,920
was like, I like tigers.
So I just put a tiger on it and

1161
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,000
sent it off.
And yeah, the guy was like,

1162
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:23,800
cool.
This is awesome.

1163
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,320
I talked to him over Facebook
Messenger.

1164
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,960
We actually like, talked on the
phone on like Facebook, like

1165
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,000
voice chat or whatever.
And he was like, yeah, two weeks

1166
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,360
I was like, cool.
And that was it.

1167
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,560
And send it to me.
And yeah, they fit perfectly so.

1168
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:35,480
All right.
Yeah.

1169
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,640
So people can expect to see the
tiger.

1170
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,880
The Tiger's been out about a few
times.

1171
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,720
I've worn some other trunks just
to, like, make myself laugh

1172
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,400
because they don't really fit
that well.

1173
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,080
So it's a little muffin toppy,
which is great when you're here,

1174
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:49,600
you know, gives them something
to talk about.

1175
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,240
But like, yeah, everything else
is holding up pretty good, you

1176
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:53,520
know?
So, all right.

1177
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,720
Yeah, nice.
I'm a trunks guy, in case you're

1178
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:56,960
wondering.
I'm a trunks guy.

1179
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,000
Well, I don't even know what
that when I think of trunks, I

1180
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,600
think of boxers.
Is that the same thing?

1181
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,640
Those are bikers.
Those are called bikers.

1182
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,880
So if they're if they're like
past like your leg, a little bit

1183
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,760
like closer to the knee, those
are called bikers and the long

1184
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,560
tights are just tights like the
long ones.

1185
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,920
But so the trunks would be like
what Stone Cold wore.

1186
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,800
They're basically look like,
yeah, so I'm a trunks guy, I got

1187
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,600
these big old legs, got this
cheese tattoo, I got to show it

1188
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:29,360
off, you know?
Yeah, why'd you get a cheese

1189
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,520
tattoo on your legs?
Because cheese freaking rocks,

1190
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,680
man.
Since life is great, cheese

1191
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,440
makes it better.
It's an homage to my dad,

1192
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,120
legendary cheese salesman,
Cheese Judge.

1193
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:46,240
I really just wanted A tribute
to him, and it's actually the

1194
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,240
guy who did it.
He works for Cortana Tattoo on

1195
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,200
Broadway.
He's been living in Wisconsin

1196
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,120
for like 10 years.
His first cheese tattoo he's

1197
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,200
ever done.
So I'm getting a new one for my

1198
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,360
mom.
Actually, next month I'm going

1199
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,320
to get flowers on my other legs,
so I'm going to have a cheese

1200
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:01,840
leg and a flower.
It's not just going to be a

1201
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,080
different kind of cheese.
No, no, no.

1202
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:05,000
Does she not eat?
Cheese.

1203
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,080
Of course she eats cheese, man.
But no, it's it's flowers from

1204
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,120
from your mom.
You know, for Joads.

1205
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:11,880
All right.
Yeah, all right.

1206
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,520
What kind of flower?
Marigolds.

1207
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,400
I'm actually going to start like
a whole flower bed on my leg,

1208
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,920
and it's going to be marigolds
first, and then tiger lilies and

1209
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,440
then maybe sunflowers.
Pretty bad ass tiger lilies

1210
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,720
below the tiger.
There's a story there.

1211
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,120
There's something there, yeah.
For a heel, yeah.

1212
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,360
Man, what would you wear if you
were a wrestler, 'cause you

1213
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,640
mentioned Rey Mysterio So I can
see a mask.

1214
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,640
I would, yeah, 'cause we.
Don't want to see that face on

1215
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,960
TV break?
No, I'd have.

1216
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,080
I wouldn't wear a mask.
I'd have a large beard.

1217
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:53,600
OK if I was a wrestler I'd do a
I'd do a pretty big beard, cloth

1218
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,600
wise.
I'd probably go like the I'd go

1219
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:01,360
like lumberjack route.
I think I'd go like flannel.

1220
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:04,760
Yeah.
Cut off shorts.

1221
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,480
I.
Saw my name next to yours on the

1222
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,960
card.
I'd be like I'm in for a long

1223
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,080
night.
You'd be the heel.

1224
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:17,840
Z Man, you'd have to be a baby
face with that persona.

1225
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:21,160
You know I'd.
I'd be the I I'd do that.

1226
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,920
I might incorporate a chainsaw
in my act.

1227
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:28,320
Yeah, I I like that and I would
be.

1228
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:32,200
I would probably.
I'm not as quick witted.

1229
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:37,600
I I need to plan my jokes OK.
So but I'd be very like I'd be

1230
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,560
the real like authentic.
Like they'd they'd know, you

1231
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:41,800
know.
Pretty boring, Yeah.

1232
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:43,640
I would be boring.
Absolutely, Yeah.

1233
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,440
But.
I'll write your promos for you,

1234
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:47,120
man.
OK.

1235
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:48,840
Yeah, yeah.
And just tell me what to say.

1236
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:50,240
I'm.
I'm good at delivering it.

1237
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,840
You go out there and if you're
trying to get the crowd to Boo

1238
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:54,720
you, this is one of my go to is
you just go.

1239
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,600
Did you know, like say you're
wrestling in Pulaski.

1240
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,440
Did you know Pulaski is actually
an acronym for poops and farts?

1241
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,040
Because that's all I see here is
a bunch of poops and farts.

1242
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:05,080
Thank you.
Pass the mic.

1243
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,000
It's the heat and then I'll just
Boo it.

1244
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:11,640
Do you have to it?
Is it?

1245
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,160
You probably have to be somewhat
family friendly, right?

1246
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,680
Like you can't have too much
like vulgar language.

1247
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,080
You know, OK, so that's
something I go back and forth on

1248
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,720
because yes, we've got to be
looking out for the kids and all

1249
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,040
that stuff.
And that's completely true.

1250
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:33,120
But now, especially on basic
cable, there's like cursing.

1251
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,200
I'm not saying we got to be
saying F bombs by kids, but

1252
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,000
like, let's treat them like
adults a little bit.

1253
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:39,280
Especially.
They're like teenagers, you know

1254
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:40,040
what I mean?
Like.

1255
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:45,600
It is a It is combat these
parents are bringing their kids

1256
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,960
to, to watch people beat up,
beat the hell out of each other.

1257
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,040
Yeah.
So like, you're not going to

1258
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,320
say, Oh my gosh, that really
stinking hurts.

1259
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:56,240
Like, you know, so I I see both
sides for sure.

1260
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,320
I've actually been fined for
cursing at a show.

1261
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:00,320
Really.
I.

1262
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,520
Wanted those suits by the suits.
Yeah, they're always searching

1263
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,960
for a dollar.
Yeah, well, I was fine for that.

1264
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:10,640
And also for for flipping the
bird, OK to the crowd.

1265
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,080
To the crowd, Well, you can't.
You can't flip off the crowd.

1266
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:16,920
But what was the?
How much was the fine?

1267
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,760
Guess $72.
No way higher.

1268
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:28,640
Way lower.
A truly indignant amount of

1269
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:36,080
money, one MC double.
Pretty close $5, $5 fine. $5

1270
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:41,240
fine.
Five from this suit, one that

1271
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:44,840
almost makes you wanna do it and
say take my $5.

1272
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,640
Yeah, wanna do it?
Yeah, as a person who gladly

1273
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,200
will be told to do something and
then do the complete opposite

1274
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:56,960
just because I was told to do
the other thing, I definitely

1275
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,520
would do that twice.
For $10.

1276
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,160
I would.
Spend twice on Sunday, $5.

1277
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,400
Yeah, for cursing and for giving
the figure.

1278
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,640
Yeah, a gesture that most
teenagers see Mr. Beast do on

1279
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,520
his YouTube channel.
You know what I mean?

1280
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,720
Yeah, well, you talked about
cable TV.

1281
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,320
Like, I don't know where that
snuck up on me, but.

1282
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,120
Cable FX is huge now.
I swearing.

1283
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,840
Yeah, yeah, cable TV is now
like, you know, watching an R

1284
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:27,520
rated movie.
Used to be.

1285
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,640
Yeah, it's it's amazing.
Yeah.

1286
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,840
So I don't know how or when that
happened.

1287
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,440
I don't watch a ton of like TV.
It was money.

1288
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:38,160
Yeah, for sure.
Because like FX and FXX were the

1289
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,560
big ones that just started
sneaking it in a little bit.

1290
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,000
But then I think they realized
like the ratings popped.

1291
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:44,680
You know, so like, just go with
it.

1292
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:46,800
Why do you think that is?
Is it because it seems more

1293
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:48,520
closely to more close to real
life?

1294
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,000
Yeah, I think so too.
Yeah.

1295
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,600
And.
I think our society, like, you

1296
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,600
know, there's still nostalgia
for like the Seinfeld and like

1297
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,640
the Friends and like Parks and
Rec.

1298
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,280
But even those, like, funniest
moments are funnier when you

1299
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,280
hear like the bleep stuff, you
know?

1300
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,360
So I think it's just society.
Yeah, it's it's, it's a real

1301
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,880
form of talking.
Some people say swearing is a

1302
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:12,200
sign of like, unintelligence.
Like, I think he's just talking.

1303
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,680
You know what I mean?
Isn't there some, I I think

1304
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,960
there's some like peer reviewed
studies that say that swearing

1305
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,800
goes hand in hand with
truthfulness.

1306
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,000
Yeah, I could be making that up.
I.

1307
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:26,960
Am currently trying not to swear
as much, so my swear I got this

1308
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,760
from legendary comedian Bill
Burr.

1309
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,880
Anytime I want to swear, I say.
Travis Tritt.

1310
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,280
So in traffic, I I mean, I curse
for sure.

1311
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,200
A lot of traffic.
And I got my kid in the back

1312
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,840
from daycare.
I'm like, oh, Travis Tran, you

1313
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:46,400
know, 'cause he started throwing
out some F bombs really

1314
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,640
casually.
Like my 4 year olds aren't

1315
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,480
saying F bombs as if, like he
was just getting done in the

1316
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,120
factory.
He was rolling up a cigarette

1317
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:57,080
and he'd be like ma man F and a
you know, I'm like, OK, that's

1318
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,560
for me.
So I need to I need to correct

1319
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:04,920
this a little bit.
Yeah, you had apple juice today.

1320
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,880
Your life is not that bad.
Yeah, yeah.

1321
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,200
So you Are you a stand up comedy
fan?

1322
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:11,600
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.

1323
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:17,440
Jim Gaffigan, Bill Burr, Mike
Birbigula.

1324
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,960
I saw him live.
He was awesome live.

1325
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,760
Ryan O Flanagan is really,
really funny.

1326
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,800
People that can do it clean
amaze me.

1327
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:30,560
Yeah, I have.
You know, there's probably like

1328
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:34,160
a pretty close parallel life
that, you know, they say that

1329
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,640
like you know, of all the
existences, like there's

1330
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,240
probably a close parallel path
that I'm on that I'm a stand up

1331
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,040
comic in a different one.
You can see that.

1332
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:45,040
But I don't.
I I find it unbelievable when

1333
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,760
people can do it clean and still
make it really funny.

1334
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,840
Legendarily clean.
Absolutely.

1335
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:51,720
One of the.
Yeah, one of the greatest clean

1336
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,760
ones.
You know who I love his stuff

1337
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,160
and I've only seen shorts of it,
but it's and I don't even know

1338
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,120
how to say his last name.
It's like Nate Bargatze.

1339
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,520
Have you seen any of his stuff
on like TikTok or anything?

1340
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,360
I'm sure I've listened to it on
like Pandora or something like

1341
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,240
that.
Yeah, it's great man.

1342
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,280
He's hilarious.
And it's all like family

1343
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,920
friendly, like relational
comedy.

1344
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:18,280
Love.
It cracks me up and I don't know

1345
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,560
the the people that can do it
cleanly.

1346
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,200
I I think that's an art form all
in itself for sure.

1347
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:25,760
Yeah, it's it's.
I mean, it's their playbook.

1348
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,440
You know, they figured it out.
But I swear, sometimes when we

1349
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,880
were working together, I would
come up to be like, so what's

1350
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:35,120
the deal with airplane food?
It's not made out of airplanes.

1351
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,480
Why are we eating it?
You're just, like, stupid just

1352
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,080
to make you laugh.
Just really, really dumb, dumb

1353
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:41,560
jokes.
Yeah, they're gonna get me every

1354
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:42,320
time.
Yeah.

1355
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,040
You still eating food out of a
jar?

1356
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,760
Yeah.
So I did make a couple salads in

1357
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:52,040
a jar this summer.
I'll I'll never completely get

1358
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:57,520
rid of that The the switch to
that was that my schedule

1359
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:03,080
changed a little bit so like
lunch was at home more often and

1360
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:07,600
I I did that same concept but I
would have it all as you would

1361
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,480
expect in containers and I would
make a salad each day.

1362
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:14,280
Yeah tell me that wasn't mobile.
It was so.

1363
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,720
So I would make these salads in
a jar with this awesome homemade

1364
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:22,520
dressing and and tell me it
didn't look good, like it was

1365
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,080
layered.
It kind of looks like sloppy

1366
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,359
food.
Oh, it did not look like sloppy

1367
01:08:26,359 --> 01:08:28,920
food.
Layers of deliciousness that

1368
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,080
what you would The dressing was
on the bottom.

1369
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:32,439
You would, you would, you would
always.

1370
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,479
You wouldn't dump it out too.
You'd go like very van away,

1371
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,120
yeah, yeah.
And the the pile.

1372
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,800
Of trash would dump on your
plate the pile of deliciousness

1373
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,479
and the key was the dressing is
on the bottom.

1374
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,319
So then when you flip it upside
down, you have a salad.

1375
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:53,560
That dressing goes over the top
air, completely covered.

1376
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,479
Completely covered.
Oh my gosh, no.

1377
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,040
I I was dumbfounded the first
time I saw that.

1378
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,800
Just a a glass jar.
You're just like skipping, you

1379
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,960
know, just whistling away.
You're so proud of it.

1380
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:06,279
It's good.
Yeah.

1381
01:09:06,279 --> 01:09:08,399
And I'm eating like cheese
covered hot dogs.

1382
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,560
Yeah, keep on laughing.
Keep on laughing.

1383
01:09:11,399 --> 01:09:16,680
Laughing up, chuckles, Do you
have a big salad?

1384
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:18,399
You know, like a big salad?
Yeah.

1385
01:09:19,319 --> 01:09:21,560
I can get you A2 salads and two
two small bowls.

1386
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:28,160
Man, what's your go to TV right
now?

1387
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,080
Go to TV.
I'm burning through Entourage.

1388
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,319
I've never Have you ever watched
Entourage back in the day?

1389
01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:37,359
I've never watched it before,
but a pot I listened to kept on

1390
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:38,760
suggesting it.
I was like, screw it.

1391
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:42,279
I'll watch one episode and I'm
halfway through right now.

1392
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:47,279
Very, very funny.
Johnny Drama is my favorite

1393
01:09:47,279 --> 01:09:50,040
character, yeah.
Because I just love how

1394
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,399
sensitive he is.
And I love how anything's a

1395
01:09:53,399 --> 01:09:55,200
callback.
Any opportunity's a callback for

1396
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:56,720
him to talk about his previous
career.

1397
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:00,360
Giant drama like long time.
Like, you know, bit actor.

1398
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,720
He'd be like, you know, they
didn't mind my work on 7th

1399
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:07,200
Heaven.
Yeah, yeah, that reminds you.

1400
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,120
You watch only murders in the
building you watch.

1401
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,280
No, I don't.
It's on the list though, Steve

1402
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:13,960
Martin's character, and it does
that.

1403
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:17,720
OK, constantly.
When did we change from TV being

1404
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,440
a thing to now?
It's like a chore or like a

1405
01:10:20,440 --> 01:10:21,920
bill.
You ever noticed that like we

1406
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,840
had a kid?
But no but like before that

1407
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:26,680
though too, it's like.
Have you watched Stranger

1408
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:27,920
Things?
You're like, no, I'm a little

1409
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,080
behind this month.
Can I get you next month?

1410
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:35,480
Like watching TV feels like a
chore now, so you can keep up

1411
01:10:35,480 --> 01:10:36,440
with the Joneses.
Yourself.

1412
01:10:36,440 --> 01:10:38,400
Like, are you caught up?
Like no one's caught up.

1413
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,120
I'm still working on what we do
in the shadows, maybe in like a

1414
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,320
month or two.
You know, like when things

1415
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,640
settle down, I can watch, You
know, like, it's just, when did

1416
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,520
it become this thing that was?
It feels like a chore.

1417
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:53,400
I think it's because there's so
many different options for

1418
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:54,840
content.
Too much, yeah.

1419
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:56,640
Like there's no way you can
watch it at all.

1420
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:57,680
I don't.
I don't.

1421
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,280
I don't watch much TV, really.
Or like see.

1422
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,000
Now that bothers me.
That's such a George thing.

1423
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:06,160
You know what I don't like?
Yeah.

1424
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,240
That was a George thing, yeah.
His uncomfortableness makes me

1425
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:16,120
uncomfortable.
Yeah, but yeah, I don't know.

1426
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,800
I don't, I don't watch a ton.
But I get what you're saying,

1427
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:23,200
like, and I think it's another
like, it's a low hanging fruit

1428
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:27,680
conversation, right?
Like it's a it's a way to we

1429
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:31,160
don't always connect as humans,
I don't think the way we want to

1430
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,520
or should.
So I think that that's a way

1431
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:37,120
that we can feel like we do,
even though we're talking

1432
01:11:37,440 --> 01:11:40,400
exclusively about content
outside of the realm of both of

1433
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:44,360
our realities, you know, But
that's it's interesting.

1434
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,040
I still, I I try to like I, I
we've been watching all the

1435
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:51,320
murderers in the building.
But like I, most of my TV time

1436
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:52,760
is consolidated around live
sports.

1437
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,120
OK, well, like, you're right
around the corner.

1438
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:56,160
Football's right here.
Yeah.

1439
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:57,320
Yeah.
You love football.

1440
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,040
You're so much football guy.
Yeah.

1441
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:00,600
Yeah.
Are you doing fantasy this year?

1442
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:01,720
Do you do fantasy?
Yeah.

1443
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:02,480
Yeah.
Yep.

1444
01:12:02,480 --> 01:12:05,520
Do you ever find resentment from
the people who are like, I don't

1445
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,840
do fantasy football anymore?
They wanna rub your face in it.

1446
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:10,480
You ever get that kind of that
person?

1447
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:12,080
It's funny you say that.
Bothers me.

1448
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,240
So they say it like that.
So Dan, the shows producer and I

1449
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:18,600
have been in a fantasy league
for a long time, and another one

1450
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:22,840
of our best friends is that guy.
Now Mr. I'm not gonna do fantasy

1451
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,400
anymore.
It's because it got boring.

1452
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,680
It got boring.
I don't care about these

1453
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:29,040
players.
It's too much work.

1454
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,320
That's what they always say.
I'm like, you're on your phone

1455
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,240
right now.
You could set your line up right

1456
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,080
now.
The same guy does a weekly the

1457
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:41,160
PlayStation 4G league where he
he goes in around.

1458
01:12:41,480 --> 01:12:44,400
Sounds awesome, but that's
that's something you can cut out

1459
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,360
too if you don't have time.
Mr. We've been doing this for a

1460
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,000
long time.
I did a draft last night.

1461
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:52,000
It took me 45 minutes and I did
it while I was playing Xbox.

1462
01:12:52,440 --> 01:12:55,200
Like, it's not that much effort
to do to set it to, you know,

1463
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,080
But yeah, that's.
I've ran into a bunch of those

1464
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:58,480
people lately, like my friends
from back home.

1465
01:12:58,480 --> 01:13:01,320
Like, I'm so glad I don't do
fantasy football anymore.

1466
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,200
It's like, great.
I'm so happy your life is so

1467
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:08,320
much better.
Yeah, that would be like if I

1468
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,800
that would be like if I started
advocating like I don't watch

1469
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:13,480
TV.
So that makes me better.

1470
01:13:13,480 --> 01:13:16,400
That makes me better or you
still you still drink water?

1471
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,640
And I smell water, actually.
Like, it's the same thing, you

1472
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,880
know?
It's like you're not a snob,

1473
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:25,000
like because you can hack it,
like don't make fun of me

1474
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,480
because I love it, you know?
Or you're doing 5 leagues as

1475
01:13:28,480 --> 01:13:31,320
you're you're crazy, man.
Like, yeah, I am.

1476
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,520
It's my free time.
Like, yeah, I don't know if I

1477
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:35,600
could do five.
You're in five.

1478
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,120
I'm doing 5 for the first time.
I almost did six.

1479
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,640
It's a lot.
I kind of want to do 10 next

1480
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,800
year.
No, because 10 so.

1481
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,600
The best part about fantasy
football is the drafting, right?

1482
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,040
Yeah, so I just want to get that
thrill as much as I can.

1483
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,800
I do mock drafts.
I start doing mock drafts early

1484
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:56,680
July June 13th.
I do.

1485
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,600
It's fun.
It's a hobby like.

1486
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:02,280
I I pay my fourth round pick.
Retired.

1487
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:03,160
I.
Pay my bills.

1488
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,880
I I work 40 hours a week.
I exercise every day.

1489
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,280
I drink my water.
I brush my teeth.

1490
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,400
Why can't I just have fun and
fancy football?

1491
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:10,840
Raise another human.
You can have that.

1492
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,360
Raise another human?
Yeah, yeah, I'm in five this

1493
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,920
year and I'm actually, I'm
drafting two of them at the same

1494
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,720
time on Sunday.
Does you have two devices going?

1495
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:22,160
I do.
I will have two devices going,

1496
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,360
one on the laptop, one on the
mobile, no. 22 phones I'll have

1497
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:27,720
my work phone and my my
personal.

1498
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,440
Different, different apps to
ESPN and Yahoo.

1499
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,000
Nice.
Yeah, it can be very confusing.

1500
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,200
But yeah, yeah, you love live
sports.

1501
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:38,200
Do you watch?
Are you going to be watching

1502
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,280
college football this weekend?
I don't watch college football.

1503
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:41,840
You're that guy, huh?
Yes.

1504
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:43,240
Yeah.
You know, I don't even know any

1505
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:44,440
of their names.
I don't.

1506
01:14:44,440 --> 01:14:47,360
I don't very.
I can't even watch it.

1507
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,000
It's too high, scoring very few
of them.

1508
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,640
When I get ready for fantasy
football, like for rookies, I

1509
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,640
just watch highlight tapes.
Or you have YouTube, yeah.

1510
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:57,960
YouTube study session, yeah.
You like college football.

1511
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:02,400
I don't know the the entire
power dynamic around college

1512
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:06,840
football, college sports in all.
But football in particular

1513
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,560
drives me up a wall.
I've hated the bowl game

1514
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,600
scenario for as long as I can
remember.

1515
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:17,320
Like these two garbage teams
that were like, you know, eight

1516
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:20,200
and six or something, just over
500 and they're going to play in

1517
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:23,720
like the whatever, the Oklahoma
student bowl.

1518
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:26,840
Yeah, like it.
I don't.

1519
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,960
It's all a money grab to me.
It is I I don't like it at all.

1520
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:35,400
So it yes, it is a money grab.
But for those like University of

1521
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:39,240
Louis, Louisiana Tech S that
plays in that random bowl game,

1522
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,960
for those players, that might be
the their last game that they

1523
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,880
ever play or the biggest game
they ever play Because like, one

1524
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,160
of them could have a 10 sack
game and then all of a sudden

1525
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:49,960
they're invited to the NFL
combine.

1526
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:52,800
And the yada, yada, it rolls up
downhill like that.

1527
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:56,080
So I hear what you're saying,
but I think there's quite a bit

1528
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:59,680
of romance when it comes to like
college football especially for

1529
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,480
sure.
OK.

1530
01:16:01,480 --> 01:16:04,360
No, no.
Why do you say to people that

1531
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:06,360
there, I mean there is.
I don't want to, I don't want to

1532
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,000
discredit that that individual
human's journey.

1533
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,200
Like, yeah, that might be that.
It's probably the biggest stage

1534
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:16,120
that 95% of them are ever going
to play on, but I just don't

1535
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:16,640
like.
I don't.

1536
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:17,960
I don't like the whole setup of
it.

1537
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,680
Yeah, and and now that they're
changing conferences too, it's

1538
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,760
getting pretty crazy and it's
more money ish than ever.

1539
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:27,920
But I'm still kind of fascinated
with the idea, with these, with

1540
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:31,840
these, so starting back from
like high school football

1541
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,920
players, right?
These are usually they're going

1542
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:38,640
to be like the biggest people on
on in their school, you know

1543
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,200
what I mean?
And then they go to a college

1544
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,440
program.
And they're like all the way at

1545
01:16:43,440 --> 01:16:45,520
the bottom again, even if
they're like a top recruit,

1546
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,600
because they usually have to
wait a year or two or sometimes

1547
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,840
three years to start.
And then they get to the top of

1548
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,920
their college program and then
they make it to the NFL.

1549
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:58,160
And like, they're just again,
bottom of the roster.

1550
01:16:58,480 --> 01:17:00,400
You know what I mean?
So, like, to me, I just love

1551
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,800
that journey of like up and
down, up and down.

1552
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,280
And like, I love watching
preseason games for that.

1553
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:07,640
I love seeing the scrubs.
I love seeing these like, random

1554
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:09,000
dudes Duke it out.
So.

1555
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,560
Yeah, I I saw the journey of of
college football into the pros

1556
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,440
for sure.
That that human concept does

1557
01:17:15,440 --> 01:17:18,440
fascinate me.
Where like that's a that's a

1558
01:17:18,440 --> 01:17:20,440
hard mindset to achieve in
sports.

1559
01:17:20,440 --> 01:17:23,760
Because like a lot of times the
best players get there not only

1560
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,520
because of their physical gifts
and the work they put in, but

1561
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,840
who they are mentally.
Like the people that that end up

1562
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:31,400
being the best think they're the
best.

1563
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,840
Yeah, so that's really hard to
transition to.

1564
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:38,040
Like think about that.
You know, being they just cut 52

1565
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,560
when we're recording this, they
just cut down to 52 a couple

1566
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:45,360
days or 5353. 9096 to 53 or
something like that, Yeah.

1567
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:51,040
And like all those people that
got cut are like pristine

1568
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:54,080
athletes that have to go into
that camp thinking they're the

1569
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:58,160
absolute best.
And then the next thing you

1570
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,280
know, like they're back to
their, you know?

1571
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:02,080
They're They're trying to figure
out they're.

1572
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:06,680
Gonna make a practice squad if
the XFL or USFL will pick them

1573
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:10,320
up, or if they're gonna go back
to finishing their education,

1574
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:14,160
maybe, Or if they're like, well,
I'm gonna go work at Home Depot.

1575
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:18,120
Yeah, like, I love it.
I I also am fascinated with the

1576
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:23,080
idea of like maybe this was more
when I was 2122, but when people

1577
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:26,240
were entering the draft.
And like another 21 year old was

1578
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,080
like 6 foot five, ��360.00 or
whatever.

1579
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:32,640
Like to me that's crazy.
That's an impossibly sized

1580
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:36,080
person and they're just huge.
Like it's just, it's just crazy

1581
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,040
to me.
So, yeah, Really speaks to,

1582
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,240
like, what the human body is
capable of.

1583
01:18:40,440 --> 01:18:42,520
You know, like you talked about
before, like their physical

1584
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:43,920
gifts.
Yeah.

1585
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,320
Yeah.
So yeah, that that pretty much

1586
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,240
that encompasses a lot of my TV
time these days.

1587
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:54,600
But yeah, and another reason,
secondary reason why I can't or

1588
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,760
I wouldn't get into college
football is because like the

1589
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:01,440
amount of time I spend watching
NFL football already, if I

1590
01:19:01,440 --> 01:19:04,080
doubled that like I would be,
you don't.

1591
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:07,920
Have like, an inclination to
just turn on, like, badger

1592
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:11,160
football on the radio at all?
No, no, no, no.

1593
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,640
That's probably another reason
why I don't like college

1594
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,040
football that much because the
Badgers football has been

1595
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:21,440
frustratingly it's bad to watch
for as long as I can ever

1596
01:19:21,440 --> 01:19:24,480
remember.
Yeah, like I don't want to watch

1597
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:28,280
like ground and pound
quarterback who really shouldn't

1598
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:31,760
even be out there throwing 7 * a
game.

1599
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:35,480
And like, hopefully we have a
good line in running back again

1600
01:19:35,480 --> 01:19:36,600
this year.
I don't want to watch it.

1601
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:43,120
Like, yeah, and so here, here's
the epitome of of my distaste

1602
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:48,200
for for college football.
Yeah, here we were playing cards

1603
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:51,800
the other night and a couple of
my friends are huge college

1604
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:55,000
football fans.
And I said, so who's the, like,

1605
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,800
who are the, you know, top 4-5
teams in the country right now?

1606
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,920
And I rattle off the names that
I thought they would be dead on.

1607
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:02,320
Yeah, he's like, yeah, pretty
much.

1608
01:20:02,480 --> 01:20:06,400
Alabama, yeah.
Yeah, I hate that.

1609
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,560
Like I I don't even watch it.
I I don't even know who's going

1610
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:10,600
to be good.
But like.

1611
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,440
Just by saying that, like, the
NFL is not like that.

1612
01:20:13,440 --> 01:20:15,000
There's parity in the NFL.
Parity.

1613
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,360
Yeah.
So I don't know.

1614
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:18,920
And I yearn.
I yearn for parity in

1615
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,000
professional sports.
I don't like baseball either,

1616
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,760
because they've gotten a little
more parity.

1617
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,000
But I mainly don't like baseball
because it's kind of slow.

1618
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:30,160
But, and in baseball too, it's
like more so the NFNFL.

1619
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:33,000
It's who has the most money, who
can build the best, best team.

1620
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:36,800
But yeah, yeah, NFL is the best,
100%.

1621
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:40,320
Those people who say like hockey
is way better, I'm like sure

1622
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:43,320
hockey is fine, but like you
can't be the drama of the NFL

1623
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,280
game.
Like I would say that's what my

1624
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,360
dad says too.
Like any football is usually

1625
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:48,960
better than no football, you
know?

1626
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:53,280
So like I'll take, I'll take
Lions versus Cardinals.

1627
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,000
Like I don't care.
I'm going to enjoy it for with

1628
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,440
my 5 fantasy football leagues.
My 2.

1629
01:20:59,040 --> 01:20:59,440
Phones.
Yeah.

1630
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,800
I was talking with Dan a couple
weeks ago, actually, about red

1631
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,200
zone.
Yeah, red zone.

1632
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:07,640
Yeah, he likes Red Zone a lot.
And I've never, I've never

1633
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,280
dipped my toes in the red zone.
Because one of the things I like

1634
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:14,360
appreciate about football is I
like watching the story from the

1635
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,840
beginning of the game to the end
of the game and all like the the

1636
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:22,200
stuff that happens within that
as far as like momentum and the

1637
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,960
little things that, you know,
the opposing side will pick up

1638
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,320
and come out and hopefully make
adjustments for after halftime

1639
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:30,880
and stuff.
And just trying to like think

1640
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:32,960
what's going to happen next and
what happened already.

1641
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:37,960
So I don't know that you know,
supposedly the adjustments thing

1642
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:41,160
is a hoax.
I've I've heard from many former

1643
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:44,120
players on podcasts that the
adjustments thing is a complete

1644
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:45,800
hoax.
Adjustments at halftime, Yeah,

1645
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:50,360
because they have their play
scripted out like so.

1646
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:54,040
An opening drive on offense.
No matter what happens, the 1st

1647
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:58,280
25 plays are set in stone.
So like more than likely This is

1648
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,160
why I've heard I'm not.
I'm not a conspiracy guy, but

1649
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:03,360
I've heard that, like the term
we made adjustments at halftime

1650
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,960
is usually false.
I could see it could be at

1651
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:10,840
sometimes, especially like
called plays and stuff.

1652
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:15,040
But schematically especially
from defense trying to contain

1653
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:18,240
offense, I I failed to believe
that.

1654
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:20,000
You know, it'd be tough to like
see.

1655
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:25,360
You know, if a team comes out
and they're primarily zoned that

1656
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,760
day or something and they're
just getting, you know, just

1657
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:31,440
creamed in in that, if they
won't switch in some man concept

1658
01:22:31,440 --> 01:22:34,480
or switching that, you know, to
a different zone concept or

1659
01:22:34,480 --> 01:22:39,280
whatever it may be, yeah, yeah,
yeah, 'cause you can't tell me.

1660
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:43,240
If the Chiefs comes out this
year of their first 25 plays,

1661
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,160
probably 10 are going to be
scripted with Kelsey being a.

1662
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,160
Yeah, and if he gets hurt,
they're not gonna run those

1663
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:51,040
plays to Luke Bell or whoever is
behind him.

1664
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:55,320
Yeah, my my main deterrent on
Red Zone.

1665
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,600
It's gonna sound really weird
but I really love cuz I don't

1666
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,720
watch a ton of like local TV
outside like watching the news

1667
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,000
in the morning.
I really love seeing the

1668
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:09,160
previews for all the terrible
looking like prime time shows

1669
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:13,160
like Rescue 911.
Like all these weird ass shows

1670
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:18,800
like I love, I eat those up
these terrible looking shows of

1671
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:22,000
like they're three lawyers and
like they're best friends, but

1672
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:24,640
they're shenanigans afoot like
and it's a comedy somehow.

1673
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,640
And I just think to myself, like
how do they keep pumping out

1674
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,280
these shows?
Like the same doctor procedural,

1675
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:34,040
the same lawyer procedural like,
but there's got to be a reason

1676
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:35,440
for IT.
People gotta like them.

1677
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:39,240
I want to know who watches those
It's it's it's people who.

1678
01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:42,400
Like, who is watching season 35
of Survivor?

1679
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:44,640
Yeah, like, I think that's still
on.

1680
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,840
And Survivor, Big Brother, real
world.

1681
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,000
Yeah.
The real world's not still on,

1682
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:51,720
is it Really.
So No, I'm.

1683
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:53,120
I'm sorry.
I'm thinking of the Challenge.

1684
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,200
The Challenge is still on.
But yeah, real world.

1685
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,040
I don't think they do the real
world that much anymore.

1686
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:02,200
But yeah, like, I love all the
weird syndicated or like

1687
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:06,320
broadcast TV shows.
I'm like, yeah, I don't know.

1688
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:07,640
Who's watching it.
Who's watching it.

1689
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:10,680
Yeah, because my parents, my
parents love Big Bang Theory, so

1690
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:12,480
they'd probably eat that stuff
up.

1691
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,400
Well, that's like, that's like
CW reruns now, isn't it?

1692
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:18,720
Big Bang Theory, yeah, but they
have, they have cable up in

1693
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:20,400
Tomahawk.
I swear they only think they

1694
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:23,480
have one channel, and that's the
channel that Big Bang Theory is.

1695
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:26,640
What channel you got on Big Bang
Theory?

1696
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:28,520
Big Bang.
They say Big Bang, Just Big

1697
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:30,120
Bang.
Yeah, Big Bang.

1698
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:36,320
I mean, I've only watched a
little bit.

1699
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:37,520
It's funny.
No, it's not.

1700
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:41,280
No, you dare say it bangs trash.
I've only do it.

1701
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,760
It's made me, it made me chuckle
a couple times.

1702
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:45,280
But I've only watched it with
it.

1703
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,640
Like in passing at someone's
house.

1704
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,200
It's your generation.
Your generation.

1705
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,000
I bet you're a big Putty guy
too, huh?

1706
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:53,960
Oh, Putty.
Yeah, no, not putty.

1707
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:55,560
Bandia.
You're you're a closet Bandia

1708
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:56,160
fan, aren't you?
I'm.

1709
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,840
Just going to get Sue, Yeah, you
want to say that meal for later.

1710
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:02,400
What would you do in that
situation?

1711
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:08,200
I mean soup's the meal for, for
context, for the millions of

1712
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,200
people listening or watching
whatever this media.

1713
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:11,600
Is hundreds of millions,
probably.

1714
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:17,040
The context is that Jerry
Seinfeld is offered a suit from

1715
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:20,960
a terrible peer comedian named
Kenny Bania that he dislikes

1716
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:23,640
quite a bit.
He's a true hack comedian.

1717
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,640
And Bania says, I'll give you
the suit, No, don't worry about

1718
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:27,760
it.
And Jerry's like, can I give you

1719
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:28,800
anything?
Can I give you anything?

1720
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,320
He's like, you know what?
Tell you what, don't just buy me

1721
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,880
a meal sometime.
Which is an innocent enough

1722
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:36,800
gesture, right?
But because he dislikes Bandy so

1723
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:38,240
much, he's like he's dreading
it.

1724
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,000
So then they finally go out to
the meal, a really nice

1725
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,280
restaurant.
Bandy is like talking up the

1726
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:44,760
swordfish.
Talking up the swordfish.

1727
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:46,000
You got to try it.
It's the best.

1728
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:47,040
The best, I tell you.
It's the.

1729
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:47,920
Best.
The best, Jerry.

1730
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,600
The best Jerry orders, and then
Bandy goes you.

1731
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:51,720
What else?
Get the soup.

1732
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,320
Save that meal for another time
because he's having such a great

1733
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:55,840
time.
Soup's the meal.

1734
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,360
Soup.
Yeah, well, sitting Down's the

1735
01:25:58,400 --> 01:25:59,960
meal.
Right, Yeah.

1736
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:04,680
The act of meeting and having
that is the meal, I think.

1737
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,040
Yeah, I can't.
If I'm doing a Seinfeld rewatch,

1738
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:12,040
I can't watch that.
So it makes me too angry, the

1739
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:16,200
societal contract there, that's
that's the meal.

1740
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,480
Sitting down is the meal.
Yeah, yeah.

1741
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,240
If if he gets a glass of water
with a little bit of lemon in

1742
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:24,760
it, that's the meal.
What's your favorite Seinfeld

1743
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:28,760
episode?
Oh man, my favorite Seinfeld

1744
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:34,600
episode.
I think it's it's a Putty One.

1745
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:38,040
Later season, it's when Putty's
now working as a car salesman,

1746
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:40,720
no longer grease monkey.
I don't care for that term.

1747
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:46,640
And he he buys here, sells a car
to Jerry and just like George

1748
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,880
gets frustrated from losing a
Twix bar multiple times.

1749
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:53,280
Putty and Elaine are having
troubles, Jerry's getting

1750
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:55,920
screwed over on the car rate,
and Kramer test drives the car

1751
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:59,920
and leaves it full of leaves it
empty, no gas whatsoever.

1752
01:26:59,920 --> 01:27:02,240
I think that's my favorite.
OK, yeah, what about you?

1753
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:04,440
It's tough.
I like.

1754
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,760
The one with the cigar rollers
is unbelievable.

1755
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:12,200
Keeping them in those drawers,
Yeah, that one's fantastic.

1756
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:20,640
The the the one with the What do
they what do they even call the

1757
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:24,080
little the tip calculator.
Oh, it's a it's a Wiz.

1758
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,000
The Wiz?
No, no, it's a Wiz wizard.

1759
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:28,800
The wizard.
Yeah, yeah, that one is.

1760
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,280
It's a tipping calculator.
Yeah.

1761
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:32,560
How does?
It does more than that.

1762
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:35,560
Yeah, it has multiple functions.
That one's fantastic.

1763
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:40,400
I don't know if I had to pick a
favorite, though.

1764
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:43,760
It would probably be Kenny
Rogers Chicken.

1765
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,600
Kenny Rogers Chicken's amazing.
That is a fantastic one.

1766
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:50,560
Or the one where this is
probably just moment, but when

1767
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:54,320
they bring the sign the the.
Golf ball back that they plucked

1768
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:55,200
out of the bull.
Yeah, yeah.

1769
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:59,880
Of the wheel.
Is that a typist hole in one

1770
01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:01,000
talk?
About Hole in one.

1771
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:03,520
Yeah, I picked more moments a
lot.

1772
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:07,800
You know what's amazing about
that show is you could say any.

1773
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:12,240
Single storyline from that show.
And I'd be like, Yep, I know

1774
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:13,360
exactly what you're talking
about.

1775
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:16,000
But then you could tell me
another storyline that was in

1776
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:19,120
the same episode and I would
have the no idea.

1777
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:22,720
Yeah.
Because like you, they did such

1778
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:27,800
a great job of being siloed in
these stories within the episode

1779
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:29,840
that they didn't even go
together.

1780
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,520
But it's still like lives in the
same area.

1781
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:34,440
I'm I'm going to take back my
answer.

1782
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:39,840
My answer is when they're all
going on the subway and it's

1783
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:43,960
like season three, Elaine has to
deliver a gift to like a lesbian

1784
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:45,640
wedding.
George has to.

1785
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:47,880
Or, you know, Kramer has to try
to pay off his parking tickets,

1786
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:50,280
but say he goes for the mutter
the the horse bets.

1787
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:53,440
Jerry wants to go to Coney
Island but gets stuck with a

1788
01:28:53,440 --> 01:28:59,080
nudist, and George ends up with
a basically a escort that robs

1789
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:02,640
him blind, more or less.
So yeah, that's my favorite

1790
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:06,320
episode for sure, Yeah.
That is a really good one, yeah.

1791
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:10,840
Or the The Licking Envelope
episode where Oh my God, she was

1792
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:15,440
exposed to some cheap glue.
Yeah, that was a controversial

1793
01:29:15,440 --> 01:29:16,720
episode.
People didn't like that they

1794
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:18,920
killed off Susan, but she's fine
with that.

1795
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:21,960
The actress is fine with it.
She thought it was funny, but

1796
01:29:22,480 --> 01:29:23,600
very.
Controversial at the time.

1797
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,960
Like there were Susan fans.
Yeah, they thought they there.

1798
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,960
There's like justice for Susan,
like Reddit boards and stuff.

1799
01:29:30,440 --> 01:29:32,200
But she actually didn't get
along.

1800
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:35,560
Or, yeah, George Costanza.
Or that the actor Jason

1801
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,000
Alexander, They're not like
working with her at all.

1802
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:40,600
Reddit was a thing at that time.
Well, there's Reddit now.

1803
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:44,480
I see what you're saying, yeah.
Looking into the past?

1804
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:46,080
Yeah.
Are you a Reddit guy?

1805
01:29:47,440 --> 01:29:49,720
I use Reddit for search a lot
when I wanna.

1806
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:52,880
When I wanna, like get an answer
that I know has no like

1807
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:55,280
corporate fluff, I go to Reddit.
Very fair.

1808
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:56,720
That's awesome.
That's how I use Reddit.

1809
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:58,080
I love Reddit.
Do you?

1810
01:29:58,280 --> 01:29:59,520
I love.
I've read it.

1811
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:03,000
I've I've read it for like the
podcasts I follow, video games,

1812
01:30:03,480 --> 01:30:05,880
all kinds of stuff.
I love Reddit so much.

1813
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:11,120
I I I actually engage with on
Reddit probably more than any

1814
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:14,000
other app I'd say I use.
And I'm addicted to social

1815
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,240
media.
But I love Reddit way more.

1816
01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:17,640
See.
It's all coming back around.

1817
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:21,400
LinkedIn to Reddit, right?
You're on threads, right?

1818
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:24,840
Are you on threads?
LinkedIn threads No threads The

1819
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:28,480
the the social media account
threads No the the Mark

1820
01:30:28,480 --> 01:30:31,160
Zuckerberg Twitter offshoot
threads.

1821
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:34,320
No.
Oh yeah.

1822
01:30:34,440 --> 01:30:35,920
Off of Instagram, right?
Yeah.

1823
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:39,320
No, I haven't used it yet.
OK, it's pointless.

1824
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:41,400
It's very, very.
Pointless.

1825
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:46,400
It's just it's just them seeing
a seeing a a gap where people

1826
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:48,840
might not stay with X because of
whatever.

1827
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:52,120
And then maybe we can command a
little market share what what's

1828
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:55,520
your stance on X and and Elan?
I don't know.

1829
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:57,160
You don't know?
I have no idea.

1830
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:00,880
He he's such a wild card that
you just don't know.

1831
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:04,120
Like there's nobody else in the.
Probably.

1832
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:07,520
Probably the world that would
like try to do what he's done

1833
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:10,840
like just by.
I can't remember what he paid

1834
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:14,160
for X, but it was an absorbent
amount of money like it was in

1835
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:15,880
revenue too.
Yeah.

1836
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:20,800
And he's seemingly from the
outside, looks like he's just

1837
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:22,040
running into the ground.
Yeah.

1838
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:26,960
So I really have no idea.
I I don't know.

1839
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:31,320
He's a.
He's just out there enough that

1840
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:33,720
like I don't think he
particularly cares.

1841
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:37,200
Like he's got he has access to
more money than he'll ever use.

1842
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:40,400
So it doesn't matter.
And I think he's a very, he

1843
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:42,840
seems like a very stubborn
individual.

1844
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:46,640
So like, I don't know people
that are set in their own ways

1845
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:49,920
like that and I don't.
I don't.

1846
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,120
I particularly have an opinion.
I I haven't.

1847
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:55,520
What do you call it now?
You used to call it tweet.

1848
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:57,920
I haven't exed in a while.
I don't know.

1849
01:31:57,920 --> 01:31:59,320
You haven't.
You haven't exed anyone.

1850
01:31:59,480 --> 01:32:01,760
No, I haven't exed anything.
No, I don't know, man.

1851
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:07,000
No, I yeah, Twitter's like I was
a little, I was a little

1852
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:09,280
heartbroken when stuff started
going down on Twitter cause

1853
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:11,560
Twitter was my favorite.
But it's like, yeah, he's

1854
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:13,200
running into the ground.
It's all weird.

1855
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:17,000
It's all like the it's all for
the love of free speech which

1856
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:19,560
it's like that's a weird concept
and it's own that's it's own

1857
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:23,640
debate.
But it's like, I feel like he

1858
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:28,640
could do so many good things
with that amount of money and he

1859
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:32,600
just doesn't, you know, he could
probably make it so, like no one

1860
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:35,920
ever has to pay for college
ever, ever again, you know?

1861
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:40,480
Or he could end child hunger for
the rest of our lives.

1862
01:32:41,440 --> 01:32:43,280
But he's just like, I'm just
going to buy Twitter instead,

1863
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:46,840
you know what I mean?
He could, he could make, he

1864
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:49,160
could make these electric cars.
You know, a lot of them have

1865
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:53,800
their flaws, but like, we could
end our oil consumption probably

1866
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:57,320
within 25 years if you made the
electric cars way cheaper.

1867
01:32:57,320 --> 01:32:59,120
And he would still be a
billionaire and say he wants to

1868
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:03,040
be a trillionaire.
See, the weird thing about it is

1869
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:06,800
that I don't think he even
particularly wanted to buy X

1870
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:08,720
like I.
It seems like one of those

1871
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:12,000
things where he got kind of
caught, just like he got goaded.

1872
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:16,040
Yeah, he got like, you know,
caught like both not boasting,

1873
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:19,880
but like kind of like.
You know, showmanship.

1874
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,760
Like, oh, I could do this and I
could do that And somehow

1875
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:25,800
contractually, like, they got
him to somewhere with it seems

1876
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:29,120
like they like he signed a paper
in the back alley that like he

1877
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:31,760
didn't want to sign or something
And then deep in the fine print

1878
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:33,960
was like, you actually bought
XI.

1879
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:37,400
Don't know how it all played
out, but it's just it's really

1880
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:39,640
weird to watch.
Come to life.

1881
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:41,560
Yeah.
Well, and especially in our line

1882
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:43,840
of work to come for that
marketing piece.

1883
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:46,800
That's the NWTC term.
Sorry.

1884
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:47,680
That's Yeah.
Piece.

1885
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:51,000
Everything's a piece working on
that piece of it.

1886
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:54,600
It's just weird to watch.
It's just weird.

1887
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:57,280
Like it's just weird to watch
what he's doing with that.

1888
01:33:57,280 --> 01:33:59,360
And you compare it to other
social media and stuff like

1889
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:01,960
that, and it is a huge part of
our work and a huge part of our

1890
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:04,080
lives.
So on one hand, we're like we

1891
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:06,960
want to enjoy it, you know,
because like, we grew up because

1892
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:08,200
yeah, you're you're what?
How old?

1893
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:09,880
30 what?
What are you?

1894
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:12,440
6, 36 Yeah, I'm 35.
Yeah.

1895
01:34:12,440 --> 01:34:16,600
So we grew up with these social
media things as like, it's just,

1896
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:19,280
it's another thing, right?
But it's going to be something

1897
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:23,880
completely different to people
in like 10-15 years and it's

1898
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:27,480
almost gonna be like we're we're
in between VHSS to like the next

1899
01:34:27,480 --> 01:34:29,040
thing.
Basically, it's just it's just

1900
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,560
really weird to look at, man.
It's really, really weird to

1901
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:36,200
look at every once in a while,
you know, like in the Matrix

1902
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:38,360
when he's has the blue pill or
the red pill.

1903
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:40,200
This is what I think about once
in awhile.

1904
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:43,600
This is a really deep thought.
But like every once in a while,

1905
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:47,720
I wish I would have taken like,
the blue pill when it comes to

1906
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:51,520
digital marketing, so I could
enjoy my social media just a

1907
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,200
little bit more.
But like, I'm happy to be awake,

1908
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:55,880
you know what I mean?
I'm happy for my great

1909
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:58,560
education, but every once in a
while I'm like, I just wish I

1910
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:01,680
could like, go back to enjoying
these ads, you know what I mean?

1911
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:04,120
Or like the fluff you talked
about before.

1912
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:05,360
I wish.
I wish I could just go back to

1913
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:08,440
enjoying the fluff.
But instead I see, I see the SEO

1914
01:35:08,440 --> 01:35:10,360
of it all.
I see like the targeted

1915
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:13,280
advertising, you know, so that's
a that's a little bit of a

1916
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:15,200
Ransky.
You know how the points get you

1917
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:18,880
to where the end The heat maps
are following my eyes, as you

1918
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:21,160
know.
And yeah, but.

1919
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,720
Yeah.
Appreciate you coming on,

1920
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:24,440
Jordan.
Thanks Bud.