"Buckskin" Bob Black - Tongue Cancer, Promotions Career, and "B.S." - Ep. #12

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That's it, man.
That's it.

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The main thing is, it's good to
see you.

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Good to be seen.
It's really good to see you,

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Brad.
I miss you.

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I miss you too.
It's been, what, 3-4 years?

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19 I think you left the station.
Been down here for four years

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now, yeah.
And I don't know.

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I don't know that we've seen
each other since.

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I don't think so.
I don't.

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Think I don't think we have.
No.

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And by the way, I'm Buckskin
Bob, kind of a celebrity out of

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the UP in northern Wisconsin.
They call me Buckskin Bob.

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I don't have no clue why.
All 5 1/2 deer from Alpha

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Michigan, which is well above
this map, right on the border,

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yeah.
I From the reviews I've been

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seeing this year, there might
only be 5 1/2 deer left.

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And the whole UP we got a few
extra wolves though our state

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representative right now is
introducing a bill to trap them

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and take them downstate.
Don't think it's going to

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happen, but it's one of those
issues, you know and so far we

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have a mild winter on the on the
drive down it took Me 2 1/2

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hours typically, two hours
typically, but slush, sleet at

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1st and then fog and then now
down here cleared right up.

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Yeah, crazy winter so far.
If you want to even call it

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winter, it feels like October is
there.

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Is there even snow by you?
Right now there's snow, but by

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Christmas, no snow.
Yeah, and this is a couple days

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before Christmas.
Oh, we left the cat on the bag.

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It won't be released for a
while.

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Yeah, yeah, but the the the the
airing is a couple days or not

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the airing but the taping is a
couple days before Christmas.

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My my advice is stay off the
ice.

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Remember, I give those all the
time.

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You know Brad, Brad and I tell
everybody how you and I met.

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Yeah, we we worked together.
I was a chamber director, Iron

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Iron County, Michigan, which is
right above that map, right on

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the border.
All four UP counties are on

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Central Time, which I coined.
Cheese time.

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Yeah, you know you worked in
radio, got hired and I was

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friends with your boss and it's
your fault that I got in radio

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because you said Bob, you got a
good gig, he come in here you

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can sell it because if I've I'm
a good, I'm a natural born

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salesperson.
You were iffy on it, man.

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You remember it.
You.

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Were it took me.
You're iffy on it.

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It took a while to come up.
It ended up being a good fit for

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you though.
Salesperson.

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And then I became general
manager and award-winning.

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I won the Performer of the Year.
I'm on air 15 minutes a week.

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For Buckskin Bob's weekend
report.

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Buckskin, Bob's Weekend and
Outdoor Report and everybody.

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I'm the Guy Fieri of the
Northwood.

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These sunglasses go everywhere.
Do you?

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Do you still do you still take
pictures?

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Of all my food and any gimmick I
do, I'm a gimmick person.

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You know, man, you and I are
totally different.

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You know what?
I would like to come in as a

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professional wrestler.
We that it always worked really

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well, man.
It always worked really well

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because we are different.
Even with the studio there's not

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there's not much gimmicks or
frills, right?

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And you were you're very good at
that, do you Is the Blues Fest

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still going on, going strong?
I'm a gimmick guy.

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You got the shirt on.
I got the last T-shirt 2019 end

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of Summer Blues Fest.
No COVID killed at 19 OK and or

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not 19 at 19 was last year,
which was great.

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We had eight years running and
then 20/20 was COVID. 2021

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Wisconsin was open, Michigan was
not open.

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The governor said, oh, you can
have 500 people.

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Well, I had 1000 to 15 or people
in a little village.

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And then so 500 people said it's
not worth it.

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And then I said, do I put it on
or not?

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And then she said, oh, you can
only have 250 people by the

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time.
So I'm glad I didn't go through

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with it.
And then the next year I got

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cancer.
Yeah, somebody that talks, sings

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and dance.
I'm not very good at it, but I

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entertain.
Got tongue cancer.

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Yeah.
And we were talking and.

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And I always need something to
drink.

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The radiation.
I went all the way to Chicago

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Cancer Treatment Centers of
America.

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Lived there for two full months.
Yeah, you were there for a long

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time.
Lots of chemo, tons of

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radiation.
It burnt my neck.

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I got scar that that bump is
scar tissue.

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I've got scar tissue in the
inside.

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They just dilated my throat a
couple weeks ago so I can

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swallow pills and I'm almost two
years out by this.

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By the time you see this, I'm
two years out cancer free.

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But I can't drink really good
water, water, thin liquid was

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like coffee unless I thicken.
It goes through the epiglottis,

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the flapper and goes in my lungs
and I aspirate.

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How do you thicken coffee?
What would you They make it

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thicken, or if you're lucky
enough to live, to go to see

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grounds in there.
No, they actually make thickener

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for liquids for old folks home.
So if you're lucky in about 45

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years you're going to see it.
But I have to drink carbonated

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goes down.
Well, milk or or milk products

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like almond milk.
I drink that because milk

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produces mucus.
I produce no saliva or very

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little saliva.
Milk is bad for me, but milk

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will go down.
Cottage cheese goes down,

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applesauce goes down.
Something that goes down really

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well is.
And I quite in this one too.

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My Wisconsin water made in
Milwaukee with my Blues vest.

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It's all cheesy, but you
remember that's WIKB on the

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bottom there too.
You know where, where.

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And I worked on telephone time,
and so the Wisconsin water was

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is my drink of choice.
Which you can still have.

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I've been wondering about that,
man.

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We haven't got to talk very much
since it happened.

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But that's like that was your
that's your thing, man.

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Going out for drinks and and
dinner is your thing and that

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had to put a binder on that for
a while.

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It did but then he watches.
You know I'm Bob Black on

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Facebook.
It's just easy to find.

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And no I've not done any super
social media.

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But I'm on on some Youtubes.
I've done three or four TV

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commercials.
Have you seen any of those?

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I should.
I've shared them on Facebook.

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Biker Bobby.
This is Biker Bobby.

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Look twice.
Save a life.

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Motorcycles everywhere.
And then this year was don't mow

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the grass in the yard.
Don't be a Jimmy, you know and

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and please don't litter because
I got turned in for littering

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because I threw a sign.
But you just look up WIKB on

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Facebook you got.
You got turned in for littering.

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Well, did you get a fine?
No, no, it's a $10 sign.

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It was on private property.
I'm not going to get but

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somebody they called a complaint
because a biker, Bob, because I

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dressed up in my full biker
gear, full Dresser bike, and do

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not, you know, look twice, save
a life, more cycles everywhere.

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Then I threw it behind me and I
left down the road.

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And then it says listen to
buckskin bobs.

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We can have to report 9:15 at
wikb.com.

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But I threw the sign behind me
on the radio station property.

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Some people like a dozen people
probably called in and said,

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yeah, you know, that you're
making bikers look bad.

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They shouldn't let her.
So they blocked that part out.

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So this year's ad was don't blow
grass into the street.

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It might be illegal.
It's ugly, clogged sewers, and

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it's like black ice for bikers.
And then I said, look twice,

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save a life.
Motorcycles everywhere with the

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sign, I said, and please don't
let her.

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And I hand this sign off.
And then I drove away at a

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tractor mowing grass into the
grass, full biker gear, and I

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waved at the guy that's sweeping
the grass off the sidewalk.

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It's a cheesy commercial, but
it's great.

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We did one for Telephone Time,
too, that I directed.

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Nice.
Yeah.

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So Doctor Larry's in and he said
to say hi.

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Yeah, I haven't chatted with him
in a while.

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Yeah.
He said to say I didn't tell

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many people I'm coming down just
in case it didn't happen or

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something.
And yeah, we're old.

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We're old buddies.
I was a chamber director and

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every Friday came in at 9:15.
You and I talked.

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BS I'm, I'm Buckskin Bob.
But BS Bob is even better.

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I usually sign it.
BS Bob fitting it is.

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There's no doubt about it.
It's more fitting.

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And we had fun together.
We'd go out and have a few beers

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and and we did a couple events
together and things like that.

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Of course you were.
The people wanted to see what

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you look like 'cause you're the
telephone.

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Face with the name.
Yeah, you got that for a couple

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of years.
Yeah, everybody knows what I

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look like.
I mean, I got a wanted poster

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out, wanted poster, Buckskin Bob
for drinking Missouri water in

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that's a Wisconsin.
That's probably a what, a 35

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year old Bob right there.
No, this, this year.

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That's this year, this.
Is this year?

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I'm not sure if they could see
that or not, but go ahead and

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read the what what you you could
actually find me on the weekend

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if you find me during 9:15
Friday to 9:15 on Monday.

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Prizes worth hundreds of dollars
I.

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I carry prizes with me and they
say, hey Buckskin, Bob, what you

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got for me?
And it's like, well, what's the

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password, man?
And some weekends it's it's like

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for an event or something, Yeah,
yeah.

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So I tie it to something and
you'll.

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Have tickets on you, I'll.
Have tickets, coupons.

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You know drink chips.
Yeah, you know sometimes a

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couple 100 bucks worth of
tickets to Mall of America or or

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I can't.
Wisconsin Dells, they're they're

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pre.
Double cheeseburgers, Exactly.

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And all my restaurants give me
coupons, 'cause I I talk about

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my sponsors, you know, I
promote, Yeah, so.

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But this is, this is somebody
made that for me.

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The the new kid at work made
that for me, so that's pretty

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cute.
Yeah, that's awesome, man.

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So how'd you how'd how'd you
find out about the cancer?

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Like when it happened.
I don't a bump on my side of my

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neck.
Went to my doctor and at the

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'cause I'm old and fat, I said I
got a little bump, he said.

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That's probably just your lymph
node.

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You got a cold.
I said no, I'm singing, dancing.

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I mean, the buckskin, this thing
was tight on me, you know?

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But it's a.
Little loose.

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You used to call yourself fat
and sassy, didn't you?

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Yes.
I did call myself fat and sassy.

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I was never shy and and he said
a couple weeks I'll give you

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antibiotics so two weeks went by
Christmas of 21 it was ish gave

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me antibiotics didn't go away
didn't the swelling didn't go

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down.
Couple months later he gave you

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the ultrasound and they said, oh
it's just a just a cyst.

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If it if if it stays in 6-8
months, we're going to take it

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out six months down the line or
we're going to send you the

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Wausau to have it removed
because you know they you don't

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want to go to a hospital in the
UP to work on your carotid

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artery, your area, you know.
Hey, I got a pocket knife for

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you, right?
You love it.

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But if you have a heart attack
north of an amasaw, it's

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pronounced amasaw.
By the way where I go wolf and

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and moose hunting with a camera
of course.

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So they said no, we're going to
send you to Wausau to get this

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cyst removed.
I get down there and I've

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already seen the surgeon.
I'm, I'm laying on the Gurney,

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but ass naked nurse was getting
me socks, 'cause that's cold.

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He comes, feels it, and he says,
I said it's been getting bigger.

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He goes what?
He looks at the paperwork, he

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looks at me and I'm looking up
and this.

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Is on the operating table and
they're going to take the.

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Gurney, the Gurney going into
the operating room, he checks me

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before they knock me out.
So they're going to bring push

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me into the surgical room, you
know, And she's ready for the

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IV.
The nurses there got me a

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blanket, my socks, and the
surgeon checks me before he's

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going to go scrub up and they're
going to knock me out.

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And he goes, the wife of almost
25 years, do you believe that

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Christine is known as Tina?
She goes, tell the doctor it's

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getting bigger and he's looking.
He said, yeah, it has gotten

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bigger, 'cause you only see me
like a week or two before he

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feeds that.
We'll just remove it, see what

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it is, he says.
I'm not comfortable.

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I look at him.
I'm not comfortable either.

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And was.
This the same Doctor or a

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different Doctor?
This is Surgeon.

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This is the.
Surgeon.

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Surgeon down in Wausau.
He didn't feel comfortable to

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doing the surgery.
So I go back down in river the

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next day and do a full blown CAT
scan.

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Oh, we got larynx cancer.
So hang on, my wife says, yeah,

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we're we're out of here.
We're out of these bandit

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hospitals in the UP.
We had a friend go to the cancer

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treatment centers of America now
called City of Hope out of Zion,

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IL.
It's not really Chicago, it's

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closer to Kenosha, which I love
Pleasant Prairie Kenosha, know

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every part in Euro spot in
Northern Illinois, in southern

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Wisconsin.
And so she went to the doctor,

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made him sign.
She goes, he goes, well, we're

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not sure what it is.
What's been 10 months, signed

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the paperwork.
She made him sign the paperwork

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for.
Like a transfer for a referral

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you.
Get down there.

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I I'm there for one whole week.
I got to see a three oncologist,

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2 surgeons, ear, nose and throat
surgeon, a rabbi, a minister and

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a priest.
Really.

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Sex therapist.
A new naturalist that picks

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mushrooms and stuff.
Of course, I taught them a few

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things too.
We need tech mushrooms before

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the end of the day and all the
herbs and all that good stuff.

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And they took a biopsy of that
cyst or or lymph node or

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whatever, and they did a CAT
scan and a PET scan, and it

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turned out that I had tongue
cancer.

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It wasn't larynx cancer.
It wasn't a dumb bump like they

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first thought.
So my doctor's up there

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misdiagnosed me twice.
So it was your lymph node that

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was swollen, but it was because
of the tongue.

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Cancer that your nose and throat
surgeon scoped me, went up my

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nose and you can see it on TV
and I got to watch it.

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She was, oh, your tongue is
really big.

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And she goes, you're a smoker
and said no, my parents were bad

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smokers.
My dad died 43 because, you

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know, basically smoking, mom's
heart attack, 43 smoking, I'm

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smoking, but no cigarettes.
You know, I'm I'm smoking hot

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this.
Is so cheesy I I.

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They they know.
They know my personality there.

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You know, oh you're the you're
the radio star guy.

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You're the I sing and dance fat
and sassy and all that.

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I used to say fat and sassy and
the ear, nose and throat surgeon

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from scoping me, she goes, no
you don't have it from smoking.

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She goes you have HPV, human
papilloma virus which all the

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young kids.
You're too old for that I think.

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I don't think you got vaccinated
for it.

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But anybody probably 30 and
under, got vaccinated for it and

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they see all the commercials on
TV.

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It's, yeah, it's.
In the commercials.

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Yeah, it's it's kind of like
shingles.

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We all have it in US.
Is it going to come out or not?

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OK.
And now they're vaccinated.

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All the kids that, you know,
2530 and and under are

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vaccinated and when they took
the biopsy of my lymph node, Yep

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is HPV.
You got tongue cancer. dot it,

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dot it, dot.
So a a ear, nose and throat

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surgeon not doing surgery
diagnosed it.

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And she said you're going to get
so many radiations, so many

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chemos, this kind of extra
chemo.

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I had 12 chemos, 296 hours of
chemo in a person, a PICC line

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going through my heart, and 35
radiations in a row where skin

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was melting off my neck.
Dang, Yeah.

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So that that surgeon not taking
it out probably saved your life

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save.
My life save my tongue.

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Yeah, 'cause they that's very
hard to do a tongue surgery, OK?

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Yeah, that.
And that's the logical next

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step, right?
Like what?

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What's happened since then?
How, how long did those

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treatments take?
And then I've been kind of

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watching on social media, but
that's from afar, man.

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You know, and I post on every
day almost.

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So you really got to watch me
almost every day because I'm

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eating somewhere with my famous
glasses.

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You see my I remember license
plate.

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My front license plates is pair
of sunglasses, is it?

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Really.
Yeah.

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I remember the first couple of
times I noticed you post food

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again and I was like, OK, Bob's
might be getting back to it.

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I still have a hard time.
My well, the whole treatment is

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2 months in the hospital never
left.

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OK.
Two.

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So you're there two months, two
months?

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Eight weeks total.
OK 'cause I was through

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Christmas and New Year's and
they don't do surgery and or

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chemo radiation on those days.
So yeah, I was stuck there

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'cause I had a pick line one of
the weekends and the next, well

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you can go home for a three day
weekend.

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I was not feeling up to it.
Yeah, if they said, oh your

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radiation won't catch up to you
for about 3-5 weeks and chemo,

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you might get sick to something.
But here's pills for you.

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Excuse me.
First, first or second

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radiation.
By the way, they they take, they

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put you in a mask.
Have you seen a picture of my

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mask on Facebook?
Bolt you down to a table.

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They make a mask for you.
Just you bolt you down to a

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table.
Put you in a tube for about 30

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minutes. 2530 minutes.
Excuse me, Beer makes you.

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Did they have to put extra like
mobility in yours for talking so

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much you?
Bite on a mouthpiece, OK?

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That had to be pure hell for.
You only you know that, Brad.

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But when Bob Black talks, people
listen.

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Yeah, fucking commercials from
the 70s, but you're in this tube

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for 30 up 2530 minutes doing
radiation and the first couple

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it reacted with my fillings from
the 70s.

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I've got the shitty feelings
like the mercury and all that

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bad stuff they put in your
feelings.

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My tongue turned purple and this
and that.

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It was so I couldn't eat for the
first couple of weeks, then that

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went away by then about the 5th
or 6th week.

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I'm sick now from all the chemo
and extra radiation, so I

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stopped eating.
I lost a total of about 8590 lbs

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and muscle, even though it was a
fat guy.

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How many brads could I pick up?
I mean, I could pick up two

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people at a time.
Easy.

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Not, you know, being a AMMA
person and a firefighter

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instructor.
I mean, I taught people how to

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carry people and how to slam
them.

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You know, I had my own martial
arts gym.

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So you.
Can take them out and save them.

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Save.
Yeah, so.

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But after I got home, pretty
much stuck at home for the first

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couple of months and they want
to be around everybody because I

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was compromised, you know, being
sick and I was like white as a

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ghost.
Well and.

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You're probably working through
it like, what is life?

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Now at that time, yeah, like I
relearned to eat about four

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months later.
I had a feeding tube.

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I have an extra belly button,
had a tube.

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I had to put liquid diet in
there, so I was taking about

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3500 calories in a day, plus
whatever I could chew and get

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down and swallow and I still
lost 85 lbs.

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The feeding tube saved my life.
Yeah, I didn't have it.

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I've been gone.
And you know some of your size

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couldn't lose 85 lbs.
Yeah, so.

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Could you could you put the fish
fry in the blender and dump it

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in the funnel on the top, you
know?

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You could, but it didn't.
Or it did.

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You know, somebody said you can
put a shot of whiskey in

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everyone you just because you
don't feel like it.

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Yeah.
What a trip, man.

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And didn't have a beer probably
for a good six months.

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And I had to relearn how to eat
my mouth because there's so much

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and I still have to do exercise.
I'm still no more chemo, no more

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radiation.
But I'm still in treatment, as

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in exercising, jaw stretches,
massages.

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I wear a mask at night.
The compression fitting to keep

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it from my lymphedema.
From going like this I had big

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fat neck like here and now.
My neck's kind of skinny but

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scarred.
And then all the exercises and

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and my Ashley Heidemann, she was
my speech therapist down there

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and and she was one that saved
me through everything.

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You say well why do you need a
speech therapist?

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But she helped me relearn how to
eat my my teeth.

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When I first they measured me.
They measured all your head

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instruments and stuff.
I was my mouth opening was 55mm.

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It got down to 20 like this.
They had a hard time putting my

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feeding tube in.
They had to stretch it and hurt

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me.
And knocked me out and put my

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feeding tube in.
It was not it was not fun.

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And right now I'm I'm basically
I went from a 55 to a 22 cent a

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millimeter.
I'm back in the upper 40s now so

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I've worked it back but I so I
still have to do exercises.

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Wear a mask around you wake up
in the middle of night you got

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this thing choking you.
It's not fun.

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I do a thing that that massages
your lymph nodes.

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It's ahead and and vest, and it
massages my lymph nodes so the

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water doesn't stay here and
doesn't, you know, make sure

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everything drains correctly so
it's constant treatment.

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I could do treatment.
I've had dry kneeling done.

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I've had extra massages done,
but I could do 8 hours a day of

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treatment.
Yeah.

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You know, some days you're going
to have to like it's time to

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live, yeah.
So now you're cancer free

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though?
Oh, I've been.

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Cancer free the PET scan The
second PET scan post cancer.

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They had to wait like 3 months
because you have so much

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radiation in you and so many
other things.

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I turn the lights off.
I glow, you know, it's and like

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a.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle,

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correct?
Turn the lights off.

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I would glow.
I'm not kidding.

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I mean, it was bad.
And Speaking of glowing, this is

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a rock.
This is a upper light.

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That's the.
Upper light, That's a.

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Upper light.
That's another present for you.

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So you knew about this?
And I know.

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So that's the thing.
These glow when you put the

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right kind of light on them.
This is a upper light.

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The only ultraviolet light I got
is 1 from like 1979 and I've had

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it in my bedroom for years.
So okay, you have a special

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flashlight and they glow.
OK, so this is that's a.

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True upper light.
Ed the diver would be happy to

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know about this he was talking
about.

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These myself, did you?
Yeah, are.

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There like a there a bunch of
them.

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There's a bunch of them, but I
got them at Smarty's Bar in

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Negaunee.
Picked it up for.

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A dollar or two.
And next door is Tino's Pizza

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and Lori Hayes from the Flat
Broke Blues Band, who's played

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in like half of my Blues vest.
She's got a business right there

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in Negaunee too, so oh nice,
another shout out.

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And of course they could make a
shout out to Sons of Legend and

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The Sons of Legend, which I
sing.

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I'm a member of the band and I
think you you were there when

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they made you.
You.

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Were already the honorary I was.
Already I was the first member

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of the Sons of Legend.
And yeah, yeah.

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Wasn't there there's one song
you would do right, I'm.

448
00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:22,520
Messing with the kid.
Messing with the kid I.

449
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,560
Do you know what to do?
Ner, ner, ner.

450
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:31,680
Paul Sundquist made a song for
me, and it's We played every

451
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,800
9:15 every Friday morning on the
radio.

452
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:34,600
Oh.
Really.

453
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:35,880
Yeah.
Before your.

454
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,160
Before my show.
Before your show.

455
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,480
Yeah, OK.
Nice.

456
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,280
So you're still buckskin, Bob's
weekend reports.

457
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,880
Still buckskin.
Bob's Weekend Outdoor Report

458
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,880
every Friday 9:15 Central Time
Cheese time set.

459
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,600
Your set, your set your clock to
it, yeah?

460
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,800
You got it.
And Paul Sundquist makes a song.

461
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,320
It's messing with the kid, but
it's it's following Buckskin

462
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,120
Bob, OK?
Yeah, nice.

463
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,560
Just say.
I've had my cell phone on me.

464
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,520
I'd play for you, but I put it
over there and the phone rings

465
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,360
when I get here.
But they've become infamous in a

466
00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:05,200
way too, you know?
And then people know that I've

467
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,040
had the cancer and then they see
me and they go, you know, I've

468
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,560
been almost out two years.
By the time this airs, I'm out

469
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,040
two years and I've gained about
10 lbs back.

470
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,960
Got a little flush, no beard.
I always had a goatee.

471
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,720
The radiation killed this.
Lost my hair twice.

472
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,480
I lost my hair from here down.
And then this summer my thyroid

473
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,800
went bad because of all the
radiation and for about 6

474
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:35,200
months, up and down with
different drugs and things.

475
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,600
And they finally got it worked
out.

476
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,640
And in September, just a couple
months ago, I lost most of my

477
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,960
hair and now it's came back.
I don't have as many Grays as I

478
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,320
had.
And it's thick.

479
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,040
It's thick.
Yeah.

480
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,520
And I don't have the curls,
'cause last year I had curly

481
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,600
Gray hair.
I mean, curls, you know,

482
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,320
beauticians and stuff.
Oh, I pay for that hair, you

483
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,000
know, And still it's thicker,
you know, But I lost it in

484
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,880
September.
That was always part of your

485
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,280
shtick, man.
Was your hair.

486
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,160
It was always on on point.
It was.

487
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,160
I mean, I kept, I had a haircut
every four weeks no matter what.

488
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,000
And I went through three hair
changes in two years.

489
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,080
Because of the cancer treatment
or conditions because of the

490
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,120
cancer.
Yeah.

491
00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:17,600
Well.
But I'm here and I'm.

492
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,680
And I know somebody says, hey,
nice to see you.

493
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,600
Nice to be seen.
Yeah, man.

494
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,160
And that and all the other
cancer survivors out there too.

495
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,640
You know, yeah, that probably
rings a little bit differently

496
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:32,200
after that experience.
You know just you truly mean

497
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,200
that when you say nice to be
seen and here with you and.

498
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,120
The thing is you know and you
know I'm, I'm, I'm the the.

499
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,840
I was a face of telephone time.
You hid behind the mic.

500
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,200
You were the voice of telephone
time.

501
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,600
Yeah.
I was the face.

502
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,080
I went out and you got me a job
there or they wanted me for a

503
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:48,600
long time.
I.

504
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,640
Talked you into it.
You talk me into it.

505
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,840
Twist in my arm.
And our old boss, you know, he

506
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,560
never wanted me to be in the
studio other than doing my show.

507
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,840
Doing my.
He wanted me out in the public

508
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,880
doing things.
Because everywhere I went as a

509
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,760
chamber director, there was a
WIKB sign behind me because I

510
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,760
know how to promote, you know,
so I I had that stick and it

511
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,440
stick pays sales.
If I like it, I can sell it.

512
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,440
I've been offered job to to to
travel downstate Michigan,

513
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,720
northern Wisconsin and UP to
sell parts for a factory.

514
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,160
No.
Yeah.

515
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,640
I'd be you know couple $100,000
richer.

516
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,040
But I like my my life.
I like to hunt.

517
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,280
I like to fish.
You know we have tons of wolves.

518
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,480
I trail cameras is I I bear
guide.

519
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,080
You know that was my big thing
to remember.

520
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,800
I love to bear hunt.
And I got out in the woods last

521
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,040
year with the trail camera.
I'm out at 4:00 in the morning

522
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,640
'cause I just can't sleep 'cause
my sleep I'm.

523
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,720
I'm asleep in the easy chair at
8, up at two or three.

524
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:53,640
I put my my slip of gun in my
pocket and and put my my not

525
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:58,520
Crocs, but they're my Shimanos.
They're like a a deck shoe, but

526
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,760
they're like Crocs.
Remember people used to make fun

527
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:01,800
of me wearing shorts in the
winter.

528
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,200
And like Crocs, I said they're
not Crocs or Shimanos.

529
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,320
They're deck shoes.
They're boating shoes.

530
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,560
But I'd be up at 4:00 in the
morning feeding bears.

531
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,880
Yeah, you know, so.
And not only this year.

532
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,200
Did you guide anybody this?
Year.

533
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,120
I helped somebody this year, but
they didn't want to really get

534
00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:18,440
into it too much.
They're too busy at work, so

535
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,720
they weren't successful last
year.

536
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,360
I helped him when the guy was
out of town, stuff like that.

537
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:24,920
So I did more of a guiding last
year.

538
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,800
But if if I'm the 100% guy,
you're going to be able to see a

539
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,520
bear.
I mean, guaranteed you're going

540
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,600
to see bears.
Yeah, your your method worked

541
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:34,600
pretty well.
Oh.

542
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,560
I've got a down pat.
Yeah, I.

543
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,040
Remember talking about that a
lot?

544
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,680
Oh, with the with Wishigan
outdoors.

545
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,240
Yeah man.
You and Randy.

546
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,360
Yeah that was a good time.
That was that was a radio show

547
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:52,280
back on 8 to 9 Saturday mornings
on WIKB 99.1 W ikb.com but make

548
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,800
sure you listen to Buckskin Bob
so we can outdoor report you're

549
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,360
gonna you're gonna have so many
cheesy endo windows and.

550
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,200
I'll have to.
I'll just send them to you so

551
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,120
you can use them.
Well, I'll I'll tape the whole

552
00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:06,680
show with them.
Well, I'm glad, man.

553
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,120
I've been.
I've been, you know, wanting to

554
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:10,760
have that conversation for a
while.

555
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,600
We just haven't seen each other.
But I'm glad you're light at the

556
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,720
end of the tunnel.
And and I'm glad for you, you

557
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,880
know.
Well, I assisted you with

558
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:18,880
getting married.
I was your.

559
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,280
Yeah you did.
I was your ordering minister.

560
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:26,640
You know popped in there pretty
quick and and the suits actually

561
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,800
matched too with all the other
guys too.

562
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,760
It looked like one of the guys
and then, you know, a year or so

563
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,000
later you had a baby and and you
were always wanting that, you

564
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,680
know, you were always.
I'm glad for you.

565
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,560
Yeah.
Yeah.

566
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,440
It's good, man.
It's.

567
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,320
Good.
It's family's.

568
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,160
Family's good, there's no doubt
about it.

569
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,960
So my family's expanded.
Yeah, tell me about that.

570
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,360
You've got.
You've got a, a.

571
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,760
Year ago we lost our son
Clifford.

572
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,360
He was he passed away in an
accident on the way to the

573
00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:56,920
another hospital because the
local hospital couldn't help

574
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,280
him.
So instead of taking an

575
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,560
ambulance there, he was driving
to that another hospital in X

576
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,160
County and he rolled his car and
got killed.

577
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,360
And he was a single father of a
10 year old or 9 year old at the

578
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:07,320
time.
He's 10 year old now, autistic

579
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,240
son and he's in the middle
spectrum.

580
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,400
He's not autistic.
It's so different.

581
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,200
But he also has an eating
disorder on top of it.

582
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,360
So he's got to eat oatmeals and
puddings and come pudding, kid.

583
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,120
Come pudding kid, Yeah.
Today I took spaghetti.

584
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:27,960
He wanted spaghetti meatballs
before I I left and he goes, I

585
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,440
said, you want them hot or cold,
you want them cold.

586
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,760
Put them in a bullet and he ate
the whole can.

587
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:42,280
Cold spaghetti, meatballs.
But he loves them, you know, in

588
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,760
certain things I could.
He goes out with me and he can't

589
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,160
eat nothing, you know, unless I
have to Put them in the bullet,

590
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,000
you know?
Nope.

591
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,760
They're good, you know?
Put it.

592
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,280
In the bullet put it.
In the bullet, yeah.

593
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,360
Is it like a texture thing?
Something like that.

594
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,160
Yes.
And he's got some kind of my

595
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,880
wife would know that the true
diagnosis of it, there's only

596
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,360
like 20 people in the whole
country.

597
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,800
That's got it.
Really.

598
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,440
Yeah.
Unbelievable.

599
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,800
Yeah.
So he's we have a 10 year old

600
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,040
plus he's special needs you know
so.

601
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,920
Yeah, that's a life.
Changer.

602
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,280
That's a life changer, Yeah.
Probably, you know, life Changer

603
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,360
in a lot of different ways,
right, That after going through

604
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,760
what you just did and kind of
coming out the back end, there's

605
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,880
probably a lot of perspectives
changed about that too, where,

606
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,240
you know, there's positives.
Yeah, right.

607
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,560
Well, you know, I'm good with
kids.

608
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,800
Yeah.
I mean, what don't I do?

609
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,360
I mean, if you list you, you
don't have a long enough time to

610
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,680
all the jobs I've had.
Yeah, school bus driver.

611
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,920
That's one of them, I thought.
About talking about that today.

612
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:45,880
My list.
Of jobs.

613
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,120
About your career path, Yeah,
because that's a it seems to be

614
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,800
a topic that we've got into, but
I don't know your career path is

615
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,840
so winding well.
I've been at the radio station

616
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,480
for nine years and.
That's probably one of your

617
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,080
longer 10 years, yeah.
That's right.

618
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,360
Like other than my own ventures,
right?

619
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,560
Your.
Entrepreneurship.

620
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,800
Yeah, I mean, I was always a
business person of one sort or

621
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,400
the other, you know, and things
like that.

622
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,240
But I was a school bus driver,
still have that, all my

623
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,760
credentials.
And kids.

624
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,560
Now the kids that I took to
school come up with their kids.

625
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,520
Hey, bus driver, Bob.
Hey, look at the little junior.

626
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,080
And you know, I hug everybody,
You know that I still can't have

627
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,120
a bus driver's license.
I keep my realtor license going.

628
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:30,520
I let my mixed martial art judge
license go, and I almost became

629
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,960
a judge in Wisconsin.
There's not many fights in the

630
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,360
UPI mean, there might be fights,
but not legal fights.

631
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,360
And my last fight and.
Ones that don't need a judge,

632
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,560
Yeah, you.
You need 911.

633
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,920
Just the juror, just the 911,
just the juror.

634
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,600
Yeah, you know, But I didn't
really like judging as much as

635
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,760
announcing cause I can pitch my
voice now, but I don't have the

636
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,120
voice I used to have fighting
out of the red quarter or you

637
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,720
know, I love announcing because
I could drink beers, flirt with

638
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,280
ring, ring card girls.
Miss Katie, Miss Wisconsin, how

639
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,840
you doing?
I've been talking to you for a

640
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,640
couple years and and dance and
sing on in the ring you know in

641
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,920
between the fights and have fun
and then they legalize it in

642
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,120
both Michigan and Wisconsin and
now you have to have blood tests

643
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,680
you got which is all good thing
and.

644
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,320
Being a judge is a lot more
serious.

645
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,000
I'm there with my wife, can't
talk to anybody, can't talk to

646
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,920
the fighters, can't interview
the fighters, can't talk to

647
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,440
anybody because it's a license
event.

648
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,160
You got to be on the straight
and narrow and Wisconsin said.

649
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,160
I didn't have enough fights
underneath my belt to get a

650
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,200
license here in Wisconsin, but I
could go to a school for 1000

651
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,120
bucks.
Oh.

652
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,320
So it's a money grab.
Yeah, they, you know, I could

653
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,800
probably go to Detroit and get a
couple more fights under my belt

654
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,240
and then that's going to cost me
a couple 1000 bucks to, you

655
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,920
know, I did it for a night in a
hotel.

656
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,120
Free beers, your pictures
probably.

657
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,080
Going to go to the fights
anyway, so you might as well be

658
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,560
a part of it and.
I'm in the front row and my last

659
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,560
fight and I used to own 2 gun
shops in Elfa, Michigan.

660
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,760
I owned one in Elfa, Michigan,
was a gun shop martial arts gym

661
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,200
and the other one I moved from
Alpha, which is population about

662
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,160
200.
It's.

663
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,640
Hilarious in itself.
The gun shop martial arts gym.

664
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,680
But just hang on, right?
Then I moved to big town of

665
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:19,640
Crystal Falls, MI, the capital
of Iron County, and I had a it

666
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:26,680
got rid of the martial arts, but
I had a gun gift ice cream shop,

667
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,880
and I could marry people.
And for one year I had Chicago,

668
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,520
Vienna hot dogs and Italian
beefs Sell your real estate,

669
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:40,120
marry you right on US too.
And I had a 10 foot, I had a 10

670
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,000
foot grizzly bear in the front
yard holding a gun.

671
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,320
You can't make that.
You can't make.

672
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,240
It up if you try.
You If you cried on you ever

673
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,680
cried yet on your podcast,
you're coming close to it.

674
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,440
I've.
Probably been brought to tears I

675
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,200
I haven't laughed so hard.
You're almost crying now and I'm

676
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,240
doing a straight face.
It's.

677
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,400
Hilarious.
I know.

678
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,920
It's great.
But I I stopped selling Chicago,

679
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,840
Vienna.
The true Viennas I got actually

680
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,760
got trained down here at to
Pier, some Chicago place that

681
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,000
had Viennas.
I met the the contractor from

682
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,080
Chicago and I'm in the UP met me
here in the pier and he taught

683
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,120
me how to dress the a true
Chicago docks.

684
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,720
I'm officially trained.
I mean my credentials.

685
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,880
I mean a federal licensed gun
dealer getting trained to serve

686
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,040
a hot dog.
A genuine.

687
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,600
A genuine.
Exactly.

688
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,120
I'm a critic.
You know, I have the hats, Oh

689
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,720
darn it.
I have those in the cartoon.

690
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,640
They keep them around, you know,
give them as gifts and stuff

691
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:39,680
like that.
It it.

692
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,280
I know.
What a sugar hot dog.

693
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,360
Yeah.
OK, you tell me and I'll give

694
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,520
you a hat if you win, You know,
things like that.

695
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,280
But.
That list of stuff, man, that

696
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,640
list of stuff where your
interests have and you didn't

697
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,600
even, you didn't even delve into
the the Jaunton to the running

698
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,800
for political office either.
Well, I was a politician for

699
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:58,600
years.
Yeah.

700
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,880
I ran for office in 96 as a
Libertarian in the UP, and they

701
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,400
couldn't even spell it right.
They put Liberian on some of

702
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,080
the, you know, paperwork and
what the heck's a libertarian,

703
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:15,840
you know, excuse me?
And then and the whole UP was

704
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,840
all all pretty much conservative
Blue Dog Democrats in in the in

705
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,239
the 90s.
So.

706
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,320
And I ran again in 98 and I won
Libertarian of the Year down in

707
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,239
Detroit living in the UP 'cause
I just promoted freedom.

708
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,800
And then and then I said, OK,
you know, I'm, I like the

709
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,360
political thing and, you know,
and and I helped get the gun law

710
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,719
changed, you know, from a May
issue to a shallow issue, Became

711
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:42,480
a licensed gun dealer and I
taught close to 4500 people in

712
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,880
concealed weapons training.
Plus I can take you in the ring

713
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,320
and show you martial arts too,
you know, things like that

714
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,880
'cause I might run out of
bullets I'd come into, that's

715
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,280
another story.
And then I then I ran as a pro

716
00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:01,040
gun Democrat in in 2000 and or
I'd have to be a a pot smoking

717
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,840
Republican and we had zero
Republicans in the UP by that.

718
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,600
You go into Wisconsin, they were
all Republican.

719
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:07,280
Just.
Either way, trying to walk the

720
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,240
fence it was.
Walk.

721
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:10,640
It was a walk defense and and I
never really walked the fence,

722
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,640
but I had two choices, you know,
pot smoking Republican or a gun

723
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,880
toting Democrat.
So I picked gun, gun toting

724
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,040
Democrat and lost the election.
My last name is black.

725
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,960
I lost a guy named Brown.
Not by a he didn't win by a lot,

726
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,720
but I still.
But I was up and coming.

727
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,160
Then I became county
commissioner and and got

728
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,440
experience.
Made millions of dollars for the

729
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,960
county, saved him millions of
dollars, got my teeth wet with

730
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,840
that.
And then I ran again in 2010 and

731
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,040
another gun toting Democrat beat
me.

732
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:45,240
He actually got endorsed by the
NRA running for a state Senate.

733
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,320
So I mean it's pretty, you know,
the UP is a different way of

734
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,640
life.
Totally.

735
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,440
I mean for politically wise.
Oh yeah, now it's changed.

736
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,520
Now it's pretty much all red
other than Marquette County.

737
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,120
It's changed because of the the
Trump era and you know, the past

738
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,640
and stuff like UP is.
An island, man, It's an it's an

739
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:03,360
island that it's a it's a unique
spot.

740
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,440
If if you haven't been there,
you gotta you just gotta go to

741
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,920
know it's a it's a unique spot.
I've been there 31 years.

742
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,080
Yeah.
Yeah.

743
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:13,880
So yeah.
What's it you know?

744
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,360
I don't know that were were
there any stops between Rockford

745
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,680
IL in the in the UP?
Never.

746
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,400
I was born and raised a fib, and
if anybody doesn't know what a

747
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,040
fib is, it's Illinois back.
I mean, it's rooted.

748
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,920
Wisconsin.
They should know.

749
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,920
Well, yeah.
Oh, don't forget to tell your

750
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,880
folks that said hi.
I will, I will.

751
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:33,920
Yeah.
I love your folks.

752
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,120
Anyway, your dad's retired, so
I'm not sure if he can listen to

753
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,120
me anymore or not, 'cause he
used to listen to you on the

754
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,240
radio once in a while.
Yeah.

755
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:43,760
They used to listen sometimes.
Now they're they're on the

756
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,360
retirement schedule, man.
I don't.

757
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,400
Know what they do.
Yeah.

758
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,480
Good for them, but yeah.
I born and raised Rockford, IL

759
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,600
by a hillbilly and a farmer.
So on the weekends we go to

760
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,880
Grandpa's farm down at Dixon, IL
and then for summer vacation we

761
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,080
went to Bloomington IN and farm
for a week.

762
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,240
That wasn't vacation.
Summer.

763
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,640
Vacation that was not good.
That wasn't good at all.

764
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,640
But I learned how to farm.
I squeeze the teats and I could

765
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,480
shovel shit and drive the
tractors.

766
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,840
Farm is not away from me, but I
like it as a hobby.

767
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,280
You know I grow shiitake
mushrooms.

768
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,040
You still grow mushrooms.
I still grow mushrooms.

769
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:27,400
Yep, still pick wild mushrooms.
I actually did an hour long

770
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,800
program on the radio this year
with what?

771
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,600
What about picking wild
mushrooms?

772
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,640
OK, it was the brew master from
the the Alpha Brewing Company,

773
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,680
Lydia Novisky.
She's been picking them for

774
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,680
about 10 years and I've been
picking them for over 20.

775
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,840
So we did a radio show.
Talking shrooms, Talking shrooms

776
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,320
with Buxing and Bob and Lydia.
She's a brew master, really good

777
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,520
brew master.
Yeah, I know you're not much of

778
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,120
AA home brew kind of person, but
the Alpha Michigan Brewing

779
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,680
Company, another good sponsor of
mine.

780
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,440
And we got to say a good shout
out to your friend Brett Favre

781
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,600
himself, Sam Koski.
He's one of your he follows you

782
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:04,720
guys too.
Yeah.

783
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,400
So he's always been a a fan of
us.

784
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,720
You know, he's been listening
for a while, yeah.

785
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:10,680
And.
And he's own up.

786
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,480
There's Brett Favre.
He'll buy a drink for me at a

787
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,680
bar in the middle of nowhere.
Some Wisconsin dive bar.

788
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,120
Oh.
So the next time you go in, it's

789
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,120
like they're waiting for you.
It there's a beer chip for

790
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,800
Buckskin Bob and assigned Brett
Favre.

791
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:27,200
I said, look, Brett Favre, you
can't make this stuff up.

792
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,280
Yeah, you know.
Just 'cause he knows you're

793
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,280
going to be there, you think
there's a bar in within, like,

794
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,840
say, 100 miles of Crystal Falls
that you haven't been in?

795
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,640
No, because this this covers 100
miles.

796
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,800
You find me?
It's gotta be within the radio

797
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,560
listening distance.
No, I bet no.

798
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,240
I bet that there's That's
probably close to not an

799
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:49,640
exaggeration.
I bet there's.

800
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:56,400
It's not an exaggeration.
No, I can so mote it, be I I

801
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,160
testified to that, you know,
Yeah, you know, 200 miles.

802
00:38:59,160 --> 00:38:59,880
Oh, definitely.
I'm.

803
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,240
I'm still hitting on those, but
with my work schedule, you know,

804
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,040
And The thing is I've made so
many friends over the years, I

805
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,880
can't get back to them all.
I'm so busy.

806
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,520
Life's got busy because of my my
grandson now that we have the 10

807
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:17,760
year old and then mom still, she
just turned 92 Monday and she's

808
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,920
still driving.
Except we did not renew her

809
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,600
plates, so we're going to sell
her her minivan.

810
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,280
Oh, so she's got a she's got a
license, but you're going to

811
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,480
sell her.
Should be on board with.

812
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:32,480
That she offered it.
So yeah, she's she's slowing up.

813
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:35,720
Yeah.
And because 9292 all the way

814
00:39:35,720 --> 00:39:38,080
from the Deutschland, Have you
have you ever met her?

815
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,120
No, we never met.
You told me so many stories

816
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,840
about that one she.
Call and saying happy birthday

817
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,000
to me in German.
Yeah, remember that.

818
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,920
I do.
She called telephone time and it

819
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,200
was my birthday, which is
February 23rd if anybody wants

820
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,800
to know.
My address is a sense of stuff.

821
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,000
Just just put the Bob Black Iron
County.

822
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,600
It's going to get to me.
I mean, I'm not kidding.

823
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,120
I get stuff, you know, with no
address.

824
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,560
Those you know, just Crystal
Falls.

825
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,280
But she called up you and sang
Happy Birthday with either in

826
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,760
German or really thick off the
boat.

827
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,880
German accent.
Yeah.

828
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,160
And she's been here since the
50s and she hasn't lost it, you

829
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,120
know.
And for many years, I'd take her

830
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,840
back and forth to Florida.
She's a snowbird.

831
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,680
Or was.
And I would drive her down to

832
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,480
Florida and I'd stop in Rockford
seeing my mom.

833
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,320
I had my favorite pizza, spent
the night, played cards and and

834
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,240
drank and smoked all night.
My mom smoked.

835
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:32,880
I drank and played yachts year
cards until 3:00 in the morning,

836
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,120
get up, go all the way to
Alabama, see my oldest son

837
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,160
Dustin.
And then we get to Florida a

838
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,280
couple days later.
You know, make a small trip out

839
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,280
of it and I'd be in Florida
opener house up down there and I

840
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,840
have it hunt and fish.
I've shot hogs, wrestled

841
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,200
alligator.
You know, you've seen my

842
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,240
alligator and seen pictures of
me with it live and dead.

843
00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:54,760
You know, you know, rest.
I've not, you know, And I did

844
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,240
that.
And then I would, I would fly

845
00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:59,880
back home and stop at whatever
Army base my youngest son Tyler

846
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,000
was at.
So it's out and see him and his

847
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,320
family.
Which Tyler and and Whitney's

848
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,360
got three.
I have 3 black grandsons.

849
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,040
It's well, Tyler Black and
Whitney black, of course.

850
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,720
And then we have Harley Raylan
and Weston.

851
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,680
So.
And there are brutes like your

852
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:20,040
grandpa right off the old block.
I mean, yeah, they were going to

853
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,280
measure their heads and stuff.
And my daughter says, no, don't

854
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,640
worry, grandpa's got it.
Big heads and big feet.

855
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,760
They all got big heads and big
feet right up there.

856
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,360
You can just, you can just see
it.

857
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,840
And then I'd fly back to home,
which is probably Appleton or

858
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,400
Green Bay.
And then in the spring, I'd fly

859
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,360
back down, see my kid in the
Army, wherever he was at, fly

860
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,160
back to Tampa and then close up
shop there and see my other son

861
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,280
in Alabama.
Stop seeing my mom and grandma

862
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,680
in in Rockford or Dixon, IL.
So I made a trip out of it.

863
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,640
I did that for like 20 years but
that's before I got worked at

864
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,840
the radio station.
Took the job the radio station

865
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,560
November 1st, 14 my my
mother-in-law had a fall and she

866
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,560
fell out of her trailer
backwards and busted open her

867
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,680
head.
So she that was her last year in

868
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,560
Florida.
But for 20 years prior to that I

869
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,920
take her back and forth.
So but I mean I had crab traps

870
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,160
wrestled alligators.
I mean, I I wish I would have

871
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,640
done more stuff in Florida.
Yeah, you know, I could be a

872
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:15,480
tourist guide.
Yeah, 'cause.

873
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,600
You were there a lot.
Like I actually lived there a

874
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,320
little.
I mean like 3 weeks, 4 weeks at

875
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,760
a time sometimes.
And the bar is all new.

876
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,600
Be down there too.
Go figure.

877
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,440
And and eat.
Oh, the food.

878
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,240
So.
Are you back to that now?

879
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:32,800
Like, I know you're talking
about different stuff you can

880
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,800
drink.
Like, can you eat all the foods

881
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:35,480
you want to?
No.

882
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,160
I cannot eat a doughnut, thick
bread, a biscuit, sausage,

883
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,640
biscuits and gravy.
No, But I eat sausage gravy on

884
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,600
everything else.
Like toast, toast.

885
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,760
If it's been and and done OK.
I still choke a little bit.

886
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:50,720
I had a my second steak last
week.

887
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:52,480
It wasn't that good.
My It wasn't.

888
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:53,960
That good?
Hard.

889
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,880
To chew hard it it wasn't as
tender, but I had 1-2 weeks ago

890
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,440
Tina bought one and she goes, I
tried, you know, I'm going to

891
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,000
we're going to try it.
So I cooked on the grill,

892
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,920
haven't cooked the grill much
because I can't eat much off the

893
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,800
grill and it was really good.
I mean, I haven't had steak for

894
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:13,120
18 months.
Yeah, yeah, talking yummy.

895
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,120
And I can cook.
I mean, people see me eating out

896
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,640
all the time.
I know how to cook.

897
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,560
But, you know, so there's
certain things I have to be

898
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,720
careful with.
And by the time, you know, you

899
00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:30,240
and I sit down to eat and you
can have your meal done, I'm

900
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:32,800
only half done.
And before I can take, it's

901
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,320
gone.
And now it takes me a lot

902
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,600
longer.
My jaw will get sore because of

903
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,960
the cancer treatment so but food
is a passion of mine.

904
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,840
I know man.
I mean I I I can cook.

905
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,800
Plus I like to go out and I'll
eat anything when people put on

906
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,480
that Facebook, you know here's
60 items.

907
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:48,560
What how many?
What you eat.

908
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,480
I go and Nutella, I'll eat it if
I had to.

909
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,080
I don't.
Know if I've ever tried Nutella

910
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,360
Actually is.
There anything you won't eat?

911
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,240
I'm not a, I don't know, like
won't eat.

912
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,280
Absolutely not.
Probably not much.

913
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,640
I try mostly anything.
Enjoy eating their stuff.

914
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,840
That's a different story, too.
Well, actually, I think you

915
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,080
didn't.
You get food poisoning for

916
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,080
mussels in in Florida?
One time?

917
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:16,680
Twice.
Twice.

918
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,840
Yeah.
I'm not a big fan of mussels.

919
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,000
I don't.
They were, they were raw oysters

920
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,120
and I've been sick twice.
Been in the hospital because of

921
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,560
it too, you know.
Not a huge fan of that.

922
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,400
I stopped eating those just
because maybe I could have a

923
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,360
reaction to it.
It's like people eating

924
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,600
mushrooms.
It might be a good mushroom, but

925
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,040
if you overdo it or your body
might react to it differently.

926
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,600
So anytime you pick wild
mushrooms, you just eat a little

927
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,840
bit the first time, give it a
couple days, then you can eat

928
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,360
it.
If you don't get sick, even if

929
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,040
it's like a Morel.
Yeah, some people, it's too rich

930
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,120
for them.
You're the first person that

931
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,040
ever told me you could eat a
puff ball mushroom.

932
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,560
I was.
But they're not worth eating,

933
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:53,960
yeah.
But who'd have thought you

934
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:54,480
could?
I'd.

935
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,480
I'd never do that puff ball.
You could actually.

936
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,520
Lydia taught me this.
Cut it up and you make it like

937
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:05,680
tofu and add it to your your
sweet and sour soup or your hot

938
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,920
and sour soups from Chinese so
you can make it like a tofu.

939
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:12,240
And absorbs anything, just adds
like a filler type material.

940
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:13,200
Just adds A filler.
Yeah.

941
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,760
OK yeah, so.
So you still eat quite a you

942
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,760
still pick mushrooms I.
Picked a lot of mushrooms this

943
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,440
year.
Buttons Crystal Falls is known

944
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,200
for the humongous fungus.
Among it's the largest, maybe

945
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,520
the biggest mushroom, the role.
I know Matt was on your show

946
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,080
too, and that show was great,
but I've known Matt for years

947
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,680
too.
And thanks Matt for the offer to

948
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,080
make a statue of me.
Yeah.

949
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,320
I think, I think his thing with
it's the largest contiguous,

950
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,160
right?
Yeah, but people argue.

951
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,640
But it's on the side of a U-Haul
truck.

952
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,600
Yeah, Crystal Falls MI, it's
good on EU Haul.

953
00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:47,400
It's Crystal Falls MI.
And technically it's a Mastodon

954
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,320
Township, which is Alpha, you
know, but it's Crystal Falls the

955
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,040
the next well they had.
To go with the metropolis, of

956
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,880
course.
All 2000 of us, the whole

957
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,360
county's only got 10,000 like
the 6th largest county in the UP

958
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:06,600
and you know 10,000 people.
But the UP has got 133% of the

959
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,280
the property but only 3% of the
population.

960
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,720
So if you don't like hunting,
fishing, snowmobiling, that's.

961
00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:17,800
Why it's quaint.
And and winter and me losing 80

962
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,320
lbs mother jacket I have in the
car is one of those heated ones

963
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,960
you just hit a button and oh.
You get cold easier now.

964
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,840
Oh yeah.
You know, I used to love winter.

965
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,560
Remember that?
Yeah, it never bothered me.

966
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:29,760
Yeah, it bothers me, you know.
Yeah.

967
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,360
Yeah.
The wife's retired next year.

968
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,800
I know.
I've got a few years left.

969
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,000
And we'll become snowbirds.
Yeah.

970
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,760
Go visit the kids where they're
at whatever station he's at.

971
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:39,920
Or Alabama.
Or find some.

972
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,080
Different mushrooms there,
right?

973
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,000
You.
Go with mushrooms.

974
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,080
You go from one state to the
other, or one country to the

975
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:45,840
other.
They.

976
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,520
They change what?
Are some of your go to's.

977
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:49,720
What?
What kind of mushrooms do you

978
00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:51,880
like?
I like oyster mushrooms best and

979
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,200
them are the ones I used to have
the cans of.

980
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,320
I used to travel all the way to
Loves Park IL.

981
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,080
Buy them in a can a 15 oz can
for a buck 9.

982
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,400
Now you buy a little teeny can
of button mushrooms for for

983
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,920
$1.50 but I can't find him
anymore down there the.

984
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,320
Canned oyster mushrooms, yeah.
I think Covad killed them.

985
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:09,800
Yeah.
They're not shipping them or

986
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,360
they're caught in somewhere
else.

987
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,560
You know, they shipped them in
for Taiwan and they were oysters

988
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,120
and they had Shatakis too, in
cans because you can farm

989
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,960
Shatakies.
I farm Shatakis.

990
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,200
I'm not as good as Matt, but I
don't work.

991
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,040
And I have a or other things
going on, you know, But I've

992
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,000
been doing shakies for almost 30
years.

993
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,280
Yeah, but oh.
Really.

994
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,480
You've been doing it that long,
Yeah.

995
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,720
Way before I met you.
Oh, I didn't know that.

996
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:32,280
Just.
Not.

997
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,760
I thought that was a project you
picked up when we knew each

998
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,280
other.
I didn't know you had been doing

999
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,160
it that long.
Maybe you got like a new new

1000
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,840
shipment or something?
I got a new toy.

1001
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,520
It's you.
You buy a a side angle grinder

1002
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,520
and you buy an auber bit for it
and you can drill 100 holes in

1003
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,720
about 30 minutes.
And before it used to take you

1004
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,000
10 hours.
Yeah, and that's what it was.

1005
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,240
Cost me 40 bucks.
World changer.

1006
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:02,160
I go to a shiitake training
class.

1007
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,360
I thought I learned something.
I left and gave him my tools and

1008
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,760
said just return them at work
for me, you know?

1009
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,960
So it's a world changer.
Yeah 'cause it was hard work

1010
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,880
before, now it's easy work.
You gotta make work easy 'cause

1011
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,480
that's it's too much work.
But now I've been picking

1012
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,040
mushrooms for 30 years.
Been do growing shiitake over 20

1013
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:25,680
for sure 2025 years in kits on
your you know you can buy a kit

1014
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,840
you know buy them from any
mushroom place and you know

1015
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:33,120
there's one that peshtigo Matt's
got them fungi perfect in in

1016
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,360
Washington but then I started
drilling in the logs and doing

1017
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,400
the plugs and stuff like that
and then I like going picking

1018
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,400
mushrooms.
Lion's mane's another one that's

1019
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,160
delicious.
There's a lot of chaga up there

1020
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,360
but you don't eat chaga that's
good for arthritis.

1021
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,160
You got a story about just
because of your wedding.

1022
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,360
That's a mushroom story.
Just hang on.

1023
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:58,280
What's another one?
There's well, the humongous

1024
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,720
fungus Humungus.
There's also, let me think of

1025
00:49:01,720 --> 00:49:04,320
anything else I eat.
There's head in the woods.

1026
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,640
That's that herbal supplement.
So And I go out there and try to

1027
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,040
learn new ones like black
trumpets, chanterelles, stuff

1028
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,600
like that.
But they're you have to hunt for

1029
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:14,440
them.
It's not picking.

1030
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,120
You're not going.
Just like you're hunting deer.

1031
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,200
You know you're not shooting.
You're not killing deer.

1032
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,800
It's not.
You're hunting and so when you

1033
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,040
go for morels, you're hunting
morels.

1034
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,520
It's always a hunt cause some
this year I got none.

1035
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,880
I think Lydia only got 3 or 4,
you know so but you got to be in

1036
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,080
the woods of finding you can't
find them sitting on your cell

1037
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,960
phone.
Oh it's this one.

1038
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,120
And you look at stuff too And
and on Facebook, you got you got

1039
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,800
these mushroom clubs on Facebook
and people are snobs.

1040
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,880
Well, is this edible?
You know what?

1041
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:49,400
All mushrooms are edible.
Once, yeah, you know, and I've

1042
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:50,680
picked poisonous mushrooms, I
think.

1043
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,240
Did I I bring mushrooms in when
you were in the studio?

1044
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,400
All the time you would bring
them in shoe boxes, shoe.

1045
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,920
Boxes.
Mushrooms in, Yeah, shoe boxes.

1046
00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:00,840
And see the thing.
That's what made me famous

1047
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,160
because I think Mitch started,
you know, photographer.

1048
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:06,760
I mean, videoing my.
And then I'd come in and wear

1049
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,360
costumes and you can see those.
That's how I got Performer of

1050
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,360
the Year, whatever.
Personality Personality of the

1051
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,320
Year 2019.
Because I'd come in and and wear

1052
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,600
the doors of Chicago came to
town.

1053
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:20,680
Did you didn't get to see him,
did you?

1054
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,520
You moved that year?
I don't think so.

1055
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:22,920
Yeah.
Yeah.

1056
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,400
You got.
Yeah, I told you to come in or

1057
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,520
get your free tickets.
So it doors, what do you call

1058
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,640
them?
Celebrity bands or cover bands,

1059
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,280
you know, And the guy looked
just like Jim Orson, acted like

1060
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,640
him, Raymond Zurich.
I mean, it's one of the best

1061
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,160
sober concerts ever been in my
life because they don't serve

1062
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,520
beer there.
But that week I came in as Bobby

1063
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,560
Morrison, had an Afro on and had
a doors, T-shirt and necklaces

1064
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,280
and gold shades.
And I think people are strange

1065
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,280
when you're strangers.
And and Mitch would always

1066
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,680
videotape those and then he and
then he did a congamer and sent

1067
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,680
it in to the Michigan
Association Broadcasters and I

1068
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,800
got personality of the year.
It's funny, just for all the I

1069
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:04,880
wear a different costume every
week.

1070
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:10,000
And little did they know that
you didn't like you used to do

1071
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:14,480
costumes before there was even
video you would do, you would

1072
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,080
do.
The business after hours.

1073
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,440
You'd come walking in for
buckskin, Bob.

1074
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,320
You would come in with Boas
around your.

1075
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,800
Oh, Bobby Flair.
Yeah, Styling, profiling, Kiss

1076
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,400
stealing, good looking son of a
gun.

1077
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,600
That was Bobby Flair.
I got a lot of personalities.

1078
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:34,520
So what was the mushroom story?
You said there's a mushroom

1079
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,560
story.
OK, which I was heavy.

1080
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,880
I got my and you got married.
That was the heaviest I've ever

1081
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,720
been.
I weighed about 3:40.

1082
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,800
OK All right, I'm down right now
about two 35240 ish.

1083
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,960
But I was pretty heavy. 340 is
heavy for five to, I mean, I

1084
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,640
had, you know, big, big pork
chops.

1085
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,360
So we call these pork chops, Big
pork chops.

1086
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,360
And I was crying a couple times
in the studio before about the

1087
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:00,640
week or two before he got
married.

1088
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,320
Bob, go see a doctor.
My knee was giving me shit and I

1089
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,160
used to wear a brace.
You were limping around heavy.

1090
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,560
I got off.
I got off.

1091
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:13,320
I got off of taking chaga and
you come out of the studio.

1092
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,680
Bob, I can hear you crying.
You know, I mean, I'm in the

1093
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,600
room next door and your studio
was in there.

1094
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,440
You're, you know, doing your
telephone time show.

1095
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,240
Bob, go see a doctor, would you?
So I go see doctor Larry.

1096
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:25,920
So you just got arthritis.
Really bad man.

1097
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,640
And you know, hot, cold and
cold, cold, cold, you know, and

1098
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,520
and my my wife's a nurse and she
said you got to, you know, cap

1099
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,080
it off.
But I forgot that I stopped

1100
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,480
taking chaga for about two
months.

1101
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,080
So I got back on the chaga, took
it easy for 3-4 days, listened

1102
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:42,560
to doctor Larry and and the boss
Tina about my wife and I took it

1103
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,360
easy, got back and I could not
dance at your wedding because I

1104
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,040
was in such pain.
And I love dancing.

1105
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,680
I mean dancing sober, singing
sober, doesn't matter.

1106
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,520
I can do anything and but you're
waiting.

1107
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,480
I couldn't dance one song
because I was in that much pain.

1108
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,360
And the Chaga and.
Then I got back on the chaga

1109
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,080
that next weekend, boom.
Another week or two later, I'm

1110
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,800
singing Larry Catala and Paul
Sunquist was playing at the same

1111
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,520
place where you got married and
I'm up there dancing my wife,

1112
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,760
doing dancing, dance by myself.
I didn't care.

1113
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,360
That's That wasn't the first
stage you ever danced by

1114
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,240
yourself on.
Oh no, that was new.

1115
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:19,920
Not shy at all.
There.

1116
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,760
Was a man.
Well, I can't even remember what

1117
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:30,240
type of event it was, but it was
a sit down thing like we

1118
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,240
everyone was sitting down eating
dinner and.

1119
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,720
All I Remember Me and Stu it
was.

1120
00:53:35,720 --> 00:53:37,640
At George Young and you and Stu
I.

1121
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,880
Just came off a surgery for my
second gallbladder.

1122
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,560
That's right.
When I became general manager

1123
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,360
and I got sick, I had it.
They they shipped me out of

1124
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,520
Dickinson for eight days.
I just became general manager.

1125
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,320
I was your boss for a month at
the most.

1126
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,280
Not really.
I mean, I didn't treat you like

1127
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,680
I said, did I?
I can't remember.

1128
00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:00,280
No, I wasn't.
No.

1129
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,920
I treated you as, you know, I'm
not a good boss.

1130
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,960
That's another story.
I'm not.

1131
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,760
But, you know, at the end of the
day, I make it happen, though,

1132
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,680
don't I?
Hey, it.

1133
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,160
Is it black or red?
You red.

1134
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,640
You're losing money, Bob.
Black's making money.

1135
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,200
That's what counts.
But I had a gallbladder that

1136
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,880
they left in me from 2010, and
that's another reason I was

1137
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,480
getting sick.
Now you remember I had to go to

1138
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,120
Green Bay.
It's coming back.

1139
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,600
Yeah.
And I was in the hospital for

1140
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,760
eight days.
Miss My son's waiting down in

1141
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,480
Alabama.
OK.

1142
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:33,720
Yes, I do.
And that.

1143
00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:36,680
Was in April of 2019.
It was a couple months before

1144
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:42,480
you quit and they had to go back
in and by the time I got to

1145
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,320
Green Bay, I became jaundiced.
They had to go inside and flush

1146
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,280
my liver because of my
gallstones that I didn't have

1147
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,080
another gallbladder, but I did.
The original doctors in the UP

1148
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,360
ripped it, left the chunk and
it's still formed.

1149
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,360
Why do you think I got fat and
was lethargic, you know, and I

1150
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:02,400
was never lethargic.
So what?

1151
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,760
Like it turned into a Like grew
another gallbladder.

1152
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:09,240
It grew another gallbladder and
stones and for eight days you

1153
00:55:09,240 --> 00:55:11,920
can't make this stuff up.
And I shouldn't have been doing

1154
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,240
that.
But OK that the next week I get

1155
00:55:15,240 --> 00:55:18,320
to Green Bay.
On Thursday in a snowstorm.

1156
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,280
The surgeon couldn't get to
Green Bay and he lives down here

1157
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,040
by you somewhere.
He felt bad.

1158
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,080
He, I said, well, you first can
go through the snow, you know,

1159
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,000
we made it so.
And I turned yellow.

1160
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,000
The next day he see me on
Friday, he goes, oh man, your

1161
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,960
liver's going down.
So they had to do emergency

1162
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,720
surgery on me on Saturday, go in
there and flush my liver, put a

1163
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:40,080
stent in and a stent.
In your liver stent.

1164
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,840
In my little, there's you have
your liver, your pancreas, you

1165
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,880
have your liver, you have your
liver, your pancreas and your

1166
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,280
gallbladder.
You have a little Tubi

1167
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,480
thingamajabra, they call that
they're all connected.

1168
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:52,960
That's.
Probably what it's called Tubi

1169
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,440
Tubi thingamajabra I.
Didn't coin that one, but I did

1170
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,640
today, I guess.
But they went and and cleared

1171
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,120
it, flushed it out, put a stent
there.

1172
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,120
So there's any more stones it's
going to come through and then

1173
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:09,400
Monday I, they went in and re
removed my, my extra

1174
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,720
gallbladder.
So I've had two gallbladder

1175
00:56:11,720 --> 00:56:13,960
surgeries laparoscopic.
So anybody wants to get

1176
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,240
laparoscopic, you might want to
just open it up and make sure

1177
00:56:17,240 --> 00:56:19,920
they scoop the whole thing out,
they do that, they get off.

1178
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,960
But then three days later we had
business after hours at George

1179
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,760
Young's, George Young's, that's.
What it was for a business

1180
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,560
after?
Was a chamber event, chamber

1181
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,760
event.
Erica was hosting it and I was

1182
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,640
feeling pretty good.
Got some cocktails in me and it

1183
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,400
was dueling pianos and they were
singing paradise by the

1184
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,440
dashboard light and I took over.
Did not need a mic and I sang

1185
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,920
the girls part Stu saying the
the Stuart.

1186
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,120
When the originals for the Alpha
Michigan Brewing Company was

1187
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,160
singing the guy part.
I sang the girls part with the D

1188
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:50,520
boys, like just singing the
girls part.

1189
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,160
And we were dancing and singing.
People were wetting themselves.

1190
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,640
I mean it was, it was funny as
hell, you know?

1191
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,080
And my doctor said you should
have been dancing after three

1192
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,040
days of surgery because I had
stitches and I had, you know,

1193
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,680
all the internal work.
But I sound, I felt good.

1194
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:10,000
And from that day on I I lost 30
lbs that year, got down on a 300

1195
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,360
and then the cancer took the
rest of the 80 lbs off.

1196
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,120
Yeah.
And you were.

1197
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,480
You were definitely you.
Well, you and Stu were the only

1198
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,640
two dancing that.
Were correct.

1199
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:25,160
And we're both happily married,
by the way, but but we had a

1200
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:26,360
fun.
You could tell we're having fun.

1201
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:28,680
I actually signed autographs
that night.

1202
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,320
People I had, they seen
pictures.

1203
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,000
There was pictures of me singing
and dancing.

1204
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:33,280
You remember the Christmas
trees?

1205
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,320
And they had pictures of chamber
members doing things.

1206
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,320
There's a picture of me on one
side singing, dancing in a suit.

1207
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,240
It was down in Illinois.
I did a wedding down there and I

1208
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:42,560
was singing some Blues Brothers
song.

1209
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:46,640
I had my my sunglasses on and
microphone and three piece suit

1210
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,000
and on the backside was Jeff
Austell.

1211
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,640
So it was like Christmas things
on these trees.

1212
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,280
I still got it in my card.
Nice.

1213
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,480
But somebody says, Bob, would
you iron graph that for me?

1214
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,120
Really.
And this gal comes from a band.

1215
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,840
She's she can really sing.
But hey, I like to entertain.

1216
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,480
Yeah, that was funny.
Yeah, I remember that one pretty

1217
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,200
well.
Not my first time singing and

1218
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:16,080
dancing in in Young's either.
So you said you got a you got a

1219
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,040
couple years left working yet?
Yeah.

1220
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,120
I I want to, I still somebody's
got to pay my bar tab.

1221
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,760
Yeah.
You know, you know I used to run

1222
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:30,440
the, I was a realtor and and I
shut my businesses down to run

1223
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,720
for state office and I lost by
that much you know and I mean

1224
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,240
Iron County came out 85% margin
there but Houghton County's and

1225
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,440
it's the largest area east of
the Mississippi.

1226
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,200
The UP you know, for for
congressional seats, for House

1227
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,600
seats, state seats, you know, we
have less population.

1228
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,480
Oh, you mean largest
geographical area?

1229
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,040
Yeah, you know, that makes
sense.

1230
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,040
East of east of the Mississippi,
you go, you know, Montana, you

1231
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,560
got one Congress person, you
know Montana is a different and

1232
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:02,320
that's really desolate.
And so I don't let him know

1233
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,120
where he's going with his story.
Now a couple years left of work

1234
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,400
is where we started, yeah.
I want.

1235
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,840
I want to sell things and stuff
like that but I don't remember

1236
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,640
exactly what was going on.
Chemo brain.

1237
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,280
Chemo brain.
But a couple years left.

1238
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,080
I if I if I can sell.
I like it.

1239
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,880
People's asked me to get back in
politics.

1240
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,920
I really don't want to, you
know, It's ugly and today's

1241
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,200
times I don't want to get into
it.

1242
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,480
Yeah.
But everything I did 20-30 years

1243
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,320
ago he circle.
Hey Bob is right, you know.

1244
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,680
Oh but you know I I did take
very good percentage in in Iron

1245
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,320
County.
In in Houghton County I lost by

1246
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:37,760
the same percentage because that
gentleman that beat me won by

1247
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,600
85% in Houghton County.
But then we became friends.

1248
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,080
And he's actually got a
declaration when I was, you

1249
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,680
might even have been there when
I was a chamber, Iron County

1250
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,840
chamber director, the governor,
the state Rep Scott Diana, who

1251
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,480
beat me, he signed it.
And Tom Casperin, where they

1252
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,080
declared Buck Skin Bob, a
promoter of Iron County.

1253
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,000
And if I can, if I like it and
promote it, I can sell it.

1254
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,560
And I I'm going to be a
salesperson doing something.

1255
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,680
Yeah, you know, I don't know
what it's going to be, you know,

1256
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,080
and I've never really invented
anything that I could go promote

1257
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,400
it and sell it myself.
Blues Fest.

1258
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:12,840
You did well with the Blues
Fest.

1259
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:14,680
I did a long time, man.
That was a cool event.

1260
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,160
You really built a cool thing
there.

1261
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,440
No chance of that.
They're talking about it now

1262
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,320
because they got a little
committee going on.

1263
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,920
It takes more than one person to
promote something.

1264
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,840
And Michigan laws suck for this.
Wisconsin.

1265
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,880
I can make it happen in
Wisconsin because you really

1266
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,880
need at least a beer and wine
tent minimum.

1267
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,120
And in Michigan, you cannot get
a beer license very easily.

1268
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,760
So you go to a nonprofit and
they're the ones allowed to make

1269
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:46,920
the money off the beer.
And probably 80% of an event, at

1270
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,520
least in UP, is off of beer
sales in Wisconsin too.

1271
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,640
You know, beer sales is is big
event.

1272
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,040
I mean, what event in Wisconsin
you've been to with it with no

1273
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:55,920
beer?
None.

1274
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,440
So the yeah, so the the promoter
or the creator only gets ticket

1275
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:03,320
sales and like that's it maybe
sponsorships, sponsorships and

1276
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,160
like, but nothing but.
Nothing off the other, nothing

1277
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,720
off the alcohol food.
Maybe food.

1278
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,400
That's probably a whole another
can of.

1279
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,120
Rooms too because how much
liability you want that which I

1280
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:18,000
I made it happen and one year I
think we lost money but most of

1281
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,520
the years in 2019 it was really
good you know you know I had

1282
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:21,480
five the.
Last one.

1283
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,760
Yeah, OK.
You know, it's it's happening.

1284
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,680
It was.
Growing every year, yeah.

1285
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,600
So I got a picture of you eating
the bluesberry pie eating

1286
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:29,720
contest.
I usually put that on your

1287
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,240
Facebook page of your birthday
in August.

1288
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,320
I lost that.
I lost.

1289
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:34,960
I can't remember.
To a little bit, yeah, I think a

1290
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:35,640
little girl.
Well.

1291
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:41,040
She could eat good pie.
All some of them, Yeah, exactly.

1292
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:43,960
I can't eat fast anymore.
I can eat.

1293
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,440
I can eat hot and spicy and I
can eat different things, but

1294
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:50,560
not not fast, you know?
Yeah, but yeah, we, we had the

1295
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:51,960
vendors.
You're not charged.

1296
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:53,880
You know, we had a lot of
vendors there that year.

1297
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,640
All the food people ran out of
food.

1298
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,040
So you know, beer people almost
ran out of beer.

1299
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,920
So and then what?
I mean, COVID came And then you,

1300
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,840
COVID.
Killed it for two years, a year

1301
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,400
and a half.
But 250 people?

1302
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,520
Why host a party and?
Then you just decided then.

1303
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,280
I had cancer.
Oh, right.

1304
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,160
So I suppose, yeah, so.
This year would have been my

1305
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:18,360
first full year that I could
possibly do it well. 10 year old

1306
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:22,840
92 year old working two jobs at
at the radio station so.

1307
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,560
Are you teasing right now?
An August Blues Fest?

1308
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,040
Right now?
Coming up next summer.

1309
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,040
There's a chance of it, but the
July 4th committee, they've got

1310
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:34,080
a nice committee that came up
with a committee this year and

1311
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:37,560
they had a lot of workers.
Their biggest July 4th in Iron

1312
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:41,920
County ever.
They had 10810 food vendors, 20

1313
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,840
craft vendors.
I was made myself.

1314
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:46,880
My grandson was the Grand
Marshall, not just the parade

1315
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,840
Marshall.
I was the Grand Marshall.

1316
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:53,560
I did the speech at the at the
at the village hall that day at

1317
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,160
the flag raising and I used to
be a fireman there.

1318
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,520
I was an Alpha fireman for 17
years, school bus driver there,

1319
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,680
gun shop.
People know me Alpha Blues Fest

1320
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:03,240
and I was a guest speaker.
There was.

1321
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,520
I was pretty honored with that.
You know, I didn't have to work

1322
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,160
it.
I sat drink Bloody Marys in the

1323
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:08,960
morning.
They brought a Bloody Mary they

1324
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,240
gave.
The speech they gave.

1325
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,560
A speech.
Bloody Mary's at 9:00.

1326
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,640
Speech was at 10.
Don't quote me on it, but I had

1327
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,800
at least one enemy back-to-back.
Yeah, back-to-back.

1328
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,000
But so that with that committee
and then with the Sons of

1329
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,080
Legend, who's been in like like
half of the more than half of

1330
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,800
the Blues fest with Jay Davis,
he was originally from there.

1331
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:28,680
He wants to bring it back as
well.

1332
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,880
So I've got a maybe a committee
musician who knows how to

1333
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,680
wrangle stuff too.
And he's been a big volunteer

1334
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,520
fireman there in Elf as well.
So 'cause I can't do it by

1335
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,560
myself anymore.
I mean, I got people to work,

1336
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,520
but I had to be the supervisor.
I need supervisors underneath me

1337
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,320
to handle the, you know.
Yeah, Colonel.

1338
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,040
Then you got your majors, then
you got the infantry, you know,

1339
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,640
little soldiers.
I used to be everything.

1340
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,840
So yeah.
That was pretty much a one man

1341
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:56,400
deal.
Yeah, it.

1342
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:00,520
Was it was tough that?
Was it was a lot for that event

1343
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,280
like you said you had, you would
get good turnouts there?

1344
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,560
I was singing everyone.
That's part of Why did that band

1345
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,120
let's just sink off?
Because I'm paying them.

1346
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,640
Yeah, I did as a joke.
But pay for the mic time?

1347
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,000
Yeah, exactly.
But that was always fun, though.

1348
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,360
And I always did karaoke, you
know?

1349
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:21,520
Really.
Right now my voice sounds

1350
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,600
halfway decent.
I think it sounds deep enough.

1351
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,760
Just don't with with the liquid.
My Wisconsin water, it's it's

1352
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,000
keeping me OK.
Yeah, that's interesting.

1353
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,200
You said you don't make saliva
anymore, so you just got to

1354
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,240
constantly just be drinking a
little something to all.

1355
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,240
The time.
And then I produce mucus too,

1356
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,360
because of those saliva, your
body.

1357
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,840
So the first couple months out
of treatment, I I sat in my

1358
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,640
chair or bed with a little
Tupperware so I could just drool

1359
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,760
into it and it was not fun.
Yeah, and everybody's different.

1360
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,400
And they said, well, you know,
these chances are you everything

1361
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,720
was going to happen.
I hit the lottery.

1362
01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:00,080
I hit everyone, I mean.
You grew a second gallbladder,

1363
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:04,040
you know?
Yeah, put that one out there.

1364
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,720
But even in my thyroid this
year, you know.

1365
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,400
Yeah, that had to be.
That'd be difficult for you for

1366
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:11,600
a while, man.
I mean, you're you're as

1367
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,880
extrovert as extroverts get
like.

1368
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,920
You thrive off of people energy.
That had to be tough for you for

1369
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,440
a while, kind of being holed up.
Couple months.

1370
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,000
I was two months in hospital,
then probably two months at

1371
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,000
home, yeah.
And then it started to get back

1372
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,360
out, you know, and and I lost so
much energy.

1373
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,280
I mean muscle mass, yeah.
Social media was probably

1374
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,200
helpful.
That probably kept you connected

1375
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:33,760
to, yeah.
To a lot of people, yeah.

1376
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,320
Yeah.
'Cause I mean, you like your

1377
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,280
alone time, but I mean, you're
extrovert, man.

1378
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,680
You, the people energize you.
So it does.

1379
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:45,120
It does, you know, And I used to
fall asleep at 4:00 and now I'm,

1380
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,520
I'm, I can stay up till eight,
9:00 unless I purposely go out

1381
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,720
and do something, you know, that
I make sure, yeah, I regulate my

1382
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:53,920
my time because I can wear
myself out a lot.

1383
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,800
I'm not going to get back in the
ring fighting again.

1384
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,520
That's another spot where we're
always fire and ice, man.

1385
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:05,800
I'm at 9:00 to Bed Guy.
And I was out till when you

1386
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,840
worked, when we worked together,
I was out probably till 11:00

1387
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,520
and we both got in there at six,
7:00 morning and and no big

1388
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:13,920
deal.
You know you're even to bed

1389
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,040
early.
I'm still doing stuff, you know,

1390
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:22,000
and and and my wife, I I'm 57
right now and so I've been out

1391
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,560
for almost 2 years from the
cancer treatment and I and I

1392
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,880
said, well you know maybe it's
time for slow down she goes you

1393
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,480
need to slow down like 10 years
ago.

1394
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:34,000
Where'd I get that energy from?
I mean, you see me.

1395
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:38,400
I mean I I was always a pistol.
Yeah, you know so but it's just

1396
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,800
everybody's different.
And and our old boss always

1397
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,800
hated me in the studio because
he said, Bob get out and sell

1398
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:47,840
because if I like it, I can sell
it and go in there.

1399
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:52,560
I go into a into a business I've
never been into before it.

1400
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,480
You know the round Iron County,
Florence County, Forest County,

1401
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,880
Dickinson County area.
And they're listening to

1402
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:00,920
telephone time.
I've already got them in my

1403
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,680
pocket, you know.
So do you miss radio?

1404
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,720
That's a good question, man.
I mean you're doing the podcast

1405
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:13,360
now and and you like the people
and then and you're in charge I.

1406
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,440
Miss the conversations.
I miss the conversations more

1407
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,080
than anything.
And the podcast.

1408
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:24,360
That's so when I was thinking of
the idea for the podcast, a lot

1409
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:28,440
of the conversations would ring
through my mind because that was

1410
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,280
by far the coolest part about
that job.

1411
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:34,680
The The different people that I
got to talk with and like get to

1412
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:38,600
know on a deep level.
You know, like ends on air and

1413
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,280
off the air.
Like I can't count how many

1414
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,520
people I talked.
With Wichigan Outdoors, which is

1415
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,480
Wisconsin and Michigan outdoors,
you and Randy, Randy brought in

1416
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,120
people like biologists from
lower Michigan and lower

1417
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,560
Wisconsin.
And one played a joke on you say

1418
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,120
I'm coming up I'm going to go
fishing and you said it's my

1419
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,160
wedding weekend.
That was great.

1420
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,560
We we we played a couple good
jokes on you.

1421
01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,440
Well, he goes.
I guess I have to take Buckskin

1422
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,280
Bob instead, he.
Was such a jokester I.

1423
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,240
Forgot who that was, but Randy
set that one up.

1424
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,800
Yeah, Randy from Wilderness
Outfitters, that was that was a

1425
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,000
great show, but you got to meet
dozens of people that.

1426
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:12,840
Was Yeah.
So that's what I that's what I

1427
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,040
missed.
That's what I still miss with is

1428
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,160
the the conversations.
But that's not radio.

1429
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:20,720
That's such a unique thing.
That thing lives and breathes by

1430
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:21,479
itself.
Yeah, well.

1431
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,000
Telephone time has been on fit
almost 59 years.

1432
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,680
Yeah, 3 hours a day, six days a
week and you get characters and

1433
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,200
they die off.
Yeah, you know Julius passed

1434
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,479
away this year.
Remember Julius always selling

1435
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:34,399
the safes.
I've.

1436
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:35,240
Thought about him?
Yeah.

1437
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,040
There's some other ones, and
I've cut people off.

1438
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:43,200
I cut two people off this year.
We call it the bubbles list.

1439
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,200
You remember her?
Oh yeah.

1440
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,359
She's a card in herself.
I mean, I love her to a point,

1441
01:08:50,359 --> 01:08:53,240
but then she gets that way and
you actually blocked her for a

1442
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,120
couple of times.
And there's other ones you had

1443
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,080
to block, 'cause it just took up
too much radio time.

1444
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:00,160
And it was negative.
Well, somebody was being

1445
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,680
negative again.
I pulled my my car over, dialed

1446
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,920
them on my carpet.
I I finally went digital on my

1447
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,200
car.
Now my other car had it too but

1448
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:12,920
now in Michigan you can't you
can't talk and and drive So I

1449
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:14,800
got I get in the studio and they
put me right in.

1450
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:16,960
Hey Buckskin boss.
They call me Buckskin boss now

1451
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:21,319
he goes what I said put that guy
in the bubbles list and people

1452
01:09:21,319 --> 01:09:24,479
all over said what what is that?
Well, you know you get out of

1453
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:26,760
hand.
You know I let people go for a

1454
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,000
long time that's see where I'm
I'm not a mean person.

1455
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:33,760
You know, and you would get you
know and the people before you

1456
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:37,120
too were even meaner than you
and you were never mean.

1457
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,800
But you know sometimes when
you're in public figure there

1458
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,279
were.
Certain things that didn't need

1459
01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:44,200
that couldn't be said, Yeah, you
know, across the airwaves to

1460
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:45,720
kids listening.
Yeah, we.

1461
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:49,200
Had anybody from kids to 99?
There's a lot of 99 year olds

1462
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:50,720
listening.
Yeah, you know, and it's.

1463
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:52,960
A this, you know, it's a
different environment.

1464
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,640
This is, there's a different
level of responsibility with

1465
01:09:55,640 --> 01:10:00,800
that because the public tuned
into a radio station.

1466
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,960
Public Radio and you don't FCC
license FCC.

1467
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:07,600
License this.
Someone clicks the button, they

1468
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,600
choose to listen.
They they're the master of their

1469
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,120
environment.
They choose to listen.

1470
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,640
And that's a that's a different
level of responsibility that's,

1471
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,160
you know, you try to entertain
them.

1472
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,880
But if it's something that, you
know, they don't want to hear,

1473
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,200
if there's kids in the room or
something like they're listening

1474
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,760
to it on the radio, businesses
are playing it.

1475
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,600
Like there's just certain things
that just, yeah, couldn't be

1476
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,960
said, you know, you.
Know we call it buy, sell, trade

1477
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,080
community events and I'm big
into community events.

1478
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,360
You know I would have done the
if I was a millionaire I would

1479
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:37,760
have done the chamber job for
free.

1480
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,800
I love promoting that stuff.
You know I brought in brought in

1481
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,840
flea markets and garage sales.
I mean citywide garage sales the

1482
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,880
place has never had it.
You know the Blues Fest with

1483
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,320
Blues Fest is one who knows what
I did back then when I was a

1484
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,360
self promoter.
You know, I just love promoting

1485
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,880
and I still promote and I don't
make any money off of the the

1486
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,240
nonprofits.
Very minimal.

1487
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:03,600
You know what are you paying for
for newspaper at Why I pay so

1488
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:04,840
much?
Well, that's what we want too.

1489
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:09,080
So I I made that kind of a rule,
you know so but I'm solid

1490
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,640
promoting.
But you and I work together when

1491
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,440
before I work with you.
I came in every Friday morning

1492
01:11:14,440 --> 01:11:16,320
9:15.
We never talked and you didn't

1493
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,360
know what things I had and then
you just we just played off each

1494
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:20,560
other.
You and I could have went

1495
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,760
national.
It was entertaining.

1496
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,120
It was very entertaining.
People loved it.

1497
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,000
I mean I come in and in the in
the fall like this time of year

1498
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:31,760
or or or or early winter with
the survival skills, you know

1499
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:33,880
what you have in your car.
Remember that and I and I would

1500
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:37,600
demonstrate and people would
understand, you know, over radio

1501
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,480
how what kind of tools I had and
stuff.

1502
01:11:40,480 --> 01:11:42,720
And then I brought in mushrooms.
And then I talked.

1503
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:47,440
Bear hunting, ice fishing.
Who knows what I couldn't talk

1504
01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:49,640
about?
There's one job I wouldn't do.

1505
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,880
I wouldn't ride AAI, would not
ride a a live bull.

1506
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:54,840
I would not become a
professional bull rider.

1507
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:58,600
I've done the fake ones, you
know, so.

1508
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,760
Yeah, that'd be a tough gig.
I mean, I got.

1509
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,280
A friend that did it and he got
broke his leg.

1510
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,280
I've been in put it this way.
I've been in the ring with the

1511
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,800
wild bulls before, but you know,
like a rodeo clown would you?

1512
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,640
Do the would you do the thing
where they draw the circle in

1513
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:13,720
the middle and then they put a
bunch of chairs in there?

1514
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:20,200
That's.
Called bull Poker I 10 years

1515
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:21,760
ago.
But yeah, I wouldn't do it

1516
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:26,000
because they they put you in a
bulletproof vest now.

1517
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,840
No, I couldn't even get in a
martial art fight because my

1518
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,600
bones are so brittle and stuff
like that.

1519
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:30,560
I couldn't even get in a fight
A.

1520
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,600
Bull proof vest they give it.
That doesn't protect your neck?

1521
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,080
No.
No.

1522
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,440
But do you ever see them?
They wear the thick vest that

1523
01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:39,760
most of the bull riders now and
and bull riders now wear a

1524
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,680
helmet.
Now 2A days they can't I I.

1525
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:43,600
I really doubt, yeah, the bull
riders do.

1526
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,000
I really doubt they still do
that like they used to do those

1527
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,520
crowd engagement things where
they would put members of the

1528
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,960
crowd in that circle and.
You just have to sign a waiver

1529
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:52,120
and.
You're the last, I guess.

1530
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,560
Yeah, you sign a waiver, but
that's my John.

1531
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,040
Hancock's not going on that
line.

1532
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:00,520
Ten years ago, I definitely
would have done it.

1533
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:03,880
I mean, I've wrestled
alligators, killed one with a

1534
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,360
pocket knife.
I got a nine foot or 260 lbs

1535
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,160
amounts at my office, Got
pictures to prove it, Put my

1536
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:13,080
wife on top of it with the mouth
opened, you know, 'cause she was

1537
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,880
smaller than I am, good size
gal, but she's still smaller

1538
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,040
than I was.
I mean, it weighed the same as I

1539
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:22,360
did, but I got that, you know, I
trapped it, caught it, killed it

1540
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,240
with my bare hands in a pocket
knife, a Kershaw pocket knife.

1541
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:29,240
You know when I seniors with
with your thing with Ed the

1542
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:32,640
diver and you guys were talking
the sturgeon and I sturgeon fish

1543
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:36,000
too, and I got two of them.
This year I got a 26 inch, 26

1544
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,320
inch and a 36 inch in the
Menominee River, which you can

1545
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,080
fish with either Wisconsin or
Michigan license.

1546
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:42,280
You're only allowed one sturgeon
a year.

1547
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:46,320
It's gotta be 60 inches.
So as big as little Ricky, you

1548
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:47,640
know, little Ricky's my
measuring tape.

1549
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,160
Remember the little Ricky, he's
still going strong.

1550
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,280
Yeah, I don't fish with them as
often 'cause I got a real job.

1551
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:59,320
Damn it, I got a real job.
But I'm gonna add also those

1552
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,800
part time jobs.
We go hunting and fishing and

1553
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,840
you know, excuse me, it's not
COVID, just cancer.

1554
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:10,840
You know, I had to do that, you
know, I mean, I sometimes I get

1555
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,760
in a coffin Jag.
Sorry, it's not COVID.

1556
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:20,880
It's just cancer.
Just immediate I.

1557
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:26,600
Mean I forgot to tell you this
February 28th I was in Rockford,

1558
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:30,640
IL coming back from coming back
from Chicago Zion stay at my

1559
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:36,520
buddy Pete's house and they had
they had traveling stand up

1560
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:40,040
comedy shows.
I came off of the state after

1561
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:41,800
off the floor in one second
place.

1562
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,640
Doing stand up, yeah.
Never done stand up before other

1563
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,640
than maybe with you.
I mean what I've done is that

1564
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,960
kind of stand up, I guess in a
different way.

1565
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,120
Kind of the closest thing you do
to stand up.

1566
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,240
I mean, you're a very good
storyteller and that's being

1567
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,520
good at stand up is a lot of
telling stories you.

1568
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,000
Know certain people take off
with that storytelling too, or

1569
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:05,520
feet off the audience.
So what was?

1570
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,720
Your bit what did?
What did you talk about I?

1571
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:10,360
Talked about my cancer treatment
that I and I had an underdog

1572
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:13,600
shirt on too, which I had the
underdog tattoo and how that

1573
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:17,680
came about.
Out of how many people?

1574
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:19,240
How many people were in the
Goddess?

1575
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,960
I had five, but I mean, they
were all on.

1576
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,960
They were already signed up and
I hear the first guy I'm going.

1577
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,840
And were they, like, were they,
like, actual, like, aspiring

1578
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:30,880
comedians?
Yeah, and.

1579
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:34,760
And they do a tour and I I took
second place and if you were

1580
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:37,520
took first and at the end of the
year you get to compete with

1581
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:42,200
everybody else.
I just came out of nowhere and.

1582
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,480
You just went and you just went
up there and just talked, yeah.

1583
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:48,440
You're supposed to do 5 minutes.
They cut me off after 15.

1584
01:15:50,440 --> 01:15:54,920
I talked for 15 minutes and it
was getting kind of dry. 15

1585
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,000
minutes long ways with no prep
at all.

1586
01:15:59,480 --> 01:16:01,920
But I can you know you got.
Second, yeah, they must have

1587
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:06,640
just counted the 1st 5.
You know oh and then oh it it's

1588
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:10,360
also called you do I'm, I'm
mistaken you do 5 minutes and I

1589
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:13,840
got caught off at 10 and then
they do the wheel of death.

1590
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:17,880
They have a thing, they have a
little, a little like a little

1591
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:21,560
wheel, and they get ideas from
audiences and they're pinned up

1592
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,080
there.
And then you got to like improv

1593
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:24,120
on.
Improv on it?

1594
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:25,800
Yeah.
And I do 5 minutes of that, so I

1595
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:26,720
did actually.
Do you?

1596
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:28,080
Remember what your wheel landed
on?

1597
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,080
What was it?
Landed on a guy in the audience.

1598
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:31,560
I roasted the hell out of him.