Brad (Quick Solo Episode) - Thank You, Aldo Leopold & a Quick Break - Episode #80

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What's up friends, welcome back
to Root of Wisconsin.

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Appreciate you for clicking
another episode.

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Grateful to have you here As
always.

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Today's episode is going to be a
little bit different.

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I'm going to take a two week
break from having guests on the

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podcast, but I didn't want to
leave you hanging for two weeks

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without chatting a little bit.
This it's been almost three

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years since I started the
podcast and it's been a hell of

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a ride.
It's it's grown faster than I

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thought it would.
It's hard to get people to

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listen to something for an hour
and a half, two hours.

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We're all busy.
We all have stuff to do and I

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just want to start by thanking
you for being here.

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Thank you for continually
clicking episodes.

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Thank you for supporting me.
Thanks for following on

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Instagram and TikTok and liking
the clips and and watching

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those.
All those things help so much

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and they all mean so much to me
for a lot of reasons.

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One being that this is a passion
project of mine and I am fully,

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I fully believe in the impact of
creating community and

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connecting people through long
form conversation.

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And the only way I get to do
that, the only way I get

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sponsors for the show, the only
way that I get awesome guests to

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come in and chat with me are
because they know that you're

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listening and they know that you
keep coming back and the

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audience keeps growing.
And I couldn't be more thankful

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for you.
So I wanted to start there.

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I, I hope you're finding some
stuff out of the conversations

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that you take with you and
either insert in your day-to-day

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life or makes you look at things
in a little bit different way or

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whatever, whatever's beneficial
for you.

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I, I, I hope that you're getting
it out of the podcast.

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And I know I have, but I've had
a chance to talk with, I think

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it's close to 80 people now.
This might actually be episode

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80.
And every single one of those

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conversations I've taken several
things from and I can't wait to

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keep doing it.
So thank you for being here.

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Thank you for coming along and
it and I'm sure as hell enjoying

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the ride.
So I appreciate you.

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So two week pause here.
Almost three years in, I haven't

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taken a break.
I used to drop 2 episodes a

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month.
Now I've been dropping weekly

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episodes and I haven't taken a
break.

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I it's been foot on the gas,
just go, go, go.

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And I'm reimagining a few
things.

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The podcast is going to live as
it does because or as it is

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because I again, I
wholeheartedly believe in the

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impact that this can have,
especially with continued

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growth.
I'm thinking about adding an

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element or two that brings me
out into the communities more

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and meets people where they are
with cool stories.

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I've got a I'm in contact with a
couple people already that I I

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think are going to be cool
stories.

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To kick this off I have to get a
few pieces of equipment and

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stuff.
But All in all just excited for

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the things to come.
So I wanted to start there by

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thanking you for making this
possible.

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I am looking for a new title
sponsor.

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If you if you know anybody kind
of holding in on cheese

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companies and carbonated water
companies with the Wisconsin

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theme and then my infatuation
for carbonated beverages that

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aren't alcoholic as you know.
So if you know anybody, shoot

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them my way.
But couple things I want to talk

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about.
I've had several piece of people

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recently bring up a couple of
the books that mean a lot to me

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right behind me here in the
frame, and I want to talk about

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one of them today.
Meditations is a great book by

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Marcus Aurelius.
Check that one out.

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It's not the one I'm going to
talk about today.

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The connection to Wisconsin
isn't as tight and it comes up a

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lot in conversation anyway, and
that's going to preface

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something I'm going to talk
about in a few minutes.

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But the Sand County Almanac
lives behind me for a reason.

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And although Leopold's thoughts
and teachings and just overall

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principles that he operated with
resonate with me on a daily

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basis, and you'll see where the
Segways going in a little bit,

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But I wanted to take a couple
minutes to explain why that book

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sits behind me.
I made some notes today, which I

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never do, but I wanted to make
sure this was kind of targeted.

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So although Leopold, you know,
my mission with the podcast is

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connection.
I want to connect people.

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And I think that one of the ways
of doing that is expanding

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people's consciousness and
seeing things and maybe a

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different light than you have
and, and kind of, you know,

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reducing or knocking off those
blinders that all of us get

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myself included at times.
And that's why I talked to such

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a diverse blend of people on the
podcast.

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And I think one of the easy
things to kind of let lapse in

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our busy lives, especially with
what's been happening recently,

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is our relationship with nature.
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extensively with different
guests, How about our

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relationship to food and our
connection with our food.

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There's a huge gap between US
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consuming.
And the next layer of that, that

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we haven't talked about as much
on the podcast is our

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relationship with the land.
And, and that's why this book

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sits behind me.
And Leopold's land Ethic makes

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you or allows you to look at
community in a different way.

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Through this podcast, we look at
community through the lens of

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people almost specifically and
almost uniquely, right?

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And that's by design because we
are a huge part of it.

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Leopold's land ethic and kind of
his thoughts on our relationship

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with the land brings us into
connection with the soils, the

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waters, the plants, the animals
that surround us, our natural

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environment.
And that's something that's

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really, really important to me.
And that's why the book sits

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behind me.
And there's a Leopold quote that

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I wanted to share with you today
about conservationism because

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we've seen a lot of legislative
attacks on, on our especially

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public natural spaces that I
think are very important as of

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late.
We've seen that.

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And I just want to drop an
earworm for you.

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Suggest reading the book.
It's awesome.

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There's a great couple great
audio book versions of it on

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Spotify that you can plug and
play and maybe look at things a

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little bit differently when
you're driving down the highway

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or see that wetland preserve in
your neighborhood or a deer in

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your backyard, whatever it is.
You know, some deer ate my

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pepper plants the other day in
my backyard and I can't have a

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garden to save my life.
I got to, I have to build this

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thing over my garden beds to
protect it from and I just

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haven't had time.
Shouldn't have even planted the

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pepper plants.
But it's easy to forget our

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relationship with it even in
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Right where you pay 250 or
whatever I paid for the pepper

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plant and then it gets gnawed
off the the day I planted it,

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the night I planted it.
But this quote resonates with me

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a lot.
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conservationist is one who let
me restart.

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A conservationist is one who is
humbly aware that with each

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stroke, he is writing his
signature on the face of his

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land.
And that includes everything we

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do and our relationship to it.
And as you've heard from the

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conversations, you know, I'm
pretty interested in business

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happenings and progress in that
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And I don't think we have to
inhibit progress to protect our

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natural spaces and, and be what
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conservationist.
And I'm big about small steps.

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Maybe that's one small step for
you to take.

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And maybe that's reading the
book and see where you stand on

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it because you might, you
probably have a significant,

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significantly different outlook
on it than I do because you have

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your unique lens.
And that's OK.

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But just something I wanted to
talk about a little bit in this

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because I've had a lot of
questions about it sitting

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behind me and it struck up a lot
of awesome conversations.

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And you know, the theme of
having guests on.

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I've had plenty of people on in
the outdoor space.

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And that's the Segway to the
next thing I know.

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I'm not dropping a full episode
this week or next week, but if

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you'd like to know a little bit
more about me and see me switch

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chairs and be interviewed, I had
a chance to go down to Milwaukee

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last week and be on the Okiest
Hunter podcast.

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And Eric and Derek were so
gracious and fun and

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conversation.
We got to so many places.

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They embraced me knowing that,
you know, my conversations on

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the podcast are so far outside
of hunting, and we stayed with

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that theme, but we also went
some different places.

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We talked about some great
fatherhood stuff and stewardship

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stuff of introducing others to
the outdoors.

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Their mission is awesome, by the
way, taking some of that ego and

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stigma out of hunting and being
like, well, you shouldn't shoot

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this buck because it isn't this
big or you shouldn't catch this

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or keep this fish because it's
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There's so much infighting in
outdoors activities and outdoor

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recreation.
And that's ultimately why I

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wanted to be on their podcast
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their their mission is
completely anti that.

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It it is more, much more along
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that Leopold would have wanted
us to have with the land at at

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least through hunting.
There's is and getting to know

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those guys a little bit.
I I bet the rest resonates with

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them too.
So I encourage you to check that

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episode out.
You've got two weeks.

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I'm going to drop this on a
Monday and then the Monday after

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this, I'm not going to have a
guest on either that that day.

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I won't even drop an episode,
but I'll be back with with vigor

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the week after that.
And in that time, if you want to

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learn a little bit about me in a
different way, check out the

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OKest Hunter podcast episode
where I had a chance to go down

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and check them out.
On the way, I also met a new

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friend from Sarah from Captain's
Chocolate who has a really cool

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story.
She's going to be a guest on in

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a while and I can't wait for you
to meet her and hear her story

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about Costa Rican coffee beans
and a little place in Wisconsin

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now making chocolate that, you
know, I, I don't want to say

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this in a negative way, but you
drive up to the chocolate stand

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and it's like it's, it was
developed outside of a, you

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know, a salvage yard or a heavy
equipment shop or something.

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Her story's awesome and some
really cool connections with

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being a steward of the land and
also helping some folks out

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outside of Wisconsin and
bringing some cool Costa Rican

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coffee beans and A, and a
awesome chocolate product to

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Wisconsin.
I had a chance to meet with

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Sarah on the way down to be on
the OK Asunder podcast too,

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which I can't, can't say enough
how excited I am to introduce

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you to her.
So check that out.

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The OK's podcast was great.
And pretty much the gist of that

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was it's bigger than the buck,
right?

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Doesn't matter how big the buck
is, the, the experience is

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bigger than the buck.
And that's going to be part of

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my time off, actually.
I'm going to go chase some trout

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around small Wisconsin streams,
one of my favorite things to do.

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I'm also going to spend some
time with my family.

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Most of you know, my regular job
is teaching.

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And as the school year winds
down, it's time for a little

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decompression and
revitalization.

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And I think the episodes will
come back better because of it.

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So in the interim, please check
out my episode with the OK S

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Hunter.
Subscribe to those guys if

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you're an outdoors person or
even if you're not, but

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especially if you're a hunter,
check out what they do.

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I think their message is really
cool.

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And then I'll leave you with
kind of my final thoughts that

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connecting back to Leopold and
the land ethic, that

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conservation and stewardship
aren't passive.

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It's an active responsibility.
And I'm the first one to say

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that I haven't been as active as
I could or should be in that

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space.
And that's another part of my

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two week break.
I reached out so to some of the

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leadership of Backcountry
hunters and anglers, the

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Wisconsin branch.
And I'm formulating in my head

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how I can becoming more involved
with that organization and how I

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can kind of put my time and
effort where my mouth is.

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My time and effort is hard to
come by with a full time job, a

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passion project to copious
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doing, and being a dad with all
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Time is tough to come by.
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going to kind of formulate and
strategize how I can use some

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time to start making an impact
about this topic, which I care

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about a hell of a lot.
And BHA is a great place to

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start.
So I'm going to take on that

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active responsibility and
hopefully in another way in a

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couple weeks, come back
refreshed and ready for some,

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some new guests and great docket
of people lined up for the

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summer.
I, I can't wait to share so many

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of them with you.
And I do all the scheduling.

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That's another heavy part of
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So constant messaging, figuring
out when guests can be here, the

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studio makes it easier and when
I'm going to start going on

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location places.
So again, as I kind of wrap this

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up, thank you.
Thanks for being here.

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Thanks for everybody who
sponsored the podcast along the

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way.
Carouser were great partners.

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Some change in legislation has
their marketing budget being cut

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right now for obvious reasons
because of risk.

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That's potentially not going to
be legal to purchase here in

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September with some other
legislation not happening.

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And along that line, forward
beverage was great too where

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they were with you.
Shout out to Epic Mortgage for

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giving me the studio space here
and all the folks that have come

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along the way all the way back
to Ryan at Riverside Pizzeria

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when he he was sponsoring
before.

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I had a huge audience and can't
can't wait to see what's next

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with the podcast.
Can't wait to come back

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reinvigorated with some awesome
guests and can't wait to keep

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sharing stories for you because
ultimately that's why I do it.

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I, I hope every time you click
an episode that you find value

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in what we discuss through the
lens of purely human stories.

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This is probably one of the only
times I've ever brought any kind

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of notepad with me in front of
the mic.

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And that's by design.
I I could, I could certainly

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dive deep and you know, hit on
the points that you know, that I

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can talk with people about.
But I think there's so much

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value in the human story that
comes out with talking that I

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hope you find it too.
So thanks again.

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Thanks for being here.
I'll see you in two weeks with

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somebody awesome, I'm sure.
See you soon.